LOMAC - Problem with pitch controls

[BattleAxes Skinner]

Woah... ok... i think am getting it... but as they say, the proof of the pudding is in eating it... so let me get my hands dirty with the joystick & i'll be able to appreciate it much better.

[mig29]

@JSF: I also had the same problem. The pitch will not self-center itself :( On the other hand the roll axis is absolutely fine. I had searched this forum ago but didn't find anything. Now I use a cheap joystick.

 

@EtherealN: Thanks for the explanation. I was also assuming the same. The constant G-load thing.

Edited March 2, 2011 by mig29

[BattleAxes Skinner]

@JSF: I also had the same problem. The pitch will not self-center itself :( On the other hand the roll axis is absolutely fine. I had searched this forum ago but didn't find anything. Now I use a cheap joystick.

 

@EtherealN: Thanks for the explanation. I was also assuming the same. The constant G-load thing.

 

and now it works fine with the joystick???

[titanium]

As someone that flew lo-mac 1.0 - fc 1.0 entirely with a keyboard, I know exactly what the problem is.

 

From what I remember lo-mac 1.0 did not have this feature and yes it is a feature. It was with the first or second patch (cant remember) of lo-mac that they changed the pitch controls. They changed the keyboard pitch controls so that it behaved essentially like a trimmer. Press down 2 times and you will need to press up 2 times to go back into the neutral position. When this first happened I, like you, got very frustrated with the controls. But with a couple of hours of practice, I got used to it. Trust me, it is actually way better because it gives a lot more precision. Before, the elevators where either on the neutral position or at maximum deflection. When you flew, you looked like the LGBs in DCS:WH flopping up and down all the time.

 

If you don't have a joystick try getting used to it. Or you can revert back to LO-mac 1.0.

 

The keyboard behavior does not affect the joystick behavior at all.

Edited March 2, 2011 by titanium

[mig29]

and now it works fine with the joystick???

 

Yeah it works fine with the joystick. (The way it's meant to be flown :))

[Grab]

How can you be such a self proclaimed "sim fanatic" and not own a joystick?

 

Bite the bullet and go to your local tech store and drop the $30 on a joystick. What your complaining about would be like me complaining that I can't move properly while playing Call of Duty because I don't own a controller for my xbox.

[EtherealN]

Grab, not everyone in the world have tonnes of disposable income.

 

How can I be enthusiastic about jet fighters? I don't even have a jet! ;)

Edited March 2, 2011 by EtherealN

[S77th-konkussion]

JSF- If you are "taking over" in a track or whatever than you DO have an auto pilot mode engaged. It's YOU- not the sim.

 

 

This "bug" is second only to the "I can't fire missiles- only guns" issue. "Porpoising"= fighting the auto pilot every single time. Try 'A" to toggle auto pilot on or off. If hitting "A" once does not cure it- then hit it once again- and try again. One of those 2 keypresses will stop the porpoising.

 

If it doesn't- than the only difference is that I am mistaken about the key command. Find it- and repeat.

 

 

Get a stick. Keyboard flying is a joke. Keyboard inputs have almost NO ability to make fine inputs to the game within any reasonable parameter. Quite frankly- many of us can't even take a keyboard pilot seriously- and wonder if the time & effort of offering assistance is worthwhile...

[aap_flanker]

I can fly it with the keyboard and even landing (not the best landing) but it's possible, for ex: you have to pull the up key and when you reach the desire attitude pull faster down key till it stops to pitch. Basically that is the way... I try it with lomac FC1 FC2 and older versions too... It's just practice.

PS: for this game is higly necessary a joystick as they said. I use a joystick and I can tell you that you will love this sim!!!

[Vekkinho]

Udat, if i apply opposite pitch, the aircraft starts porpoising & becomes un-controllable... have been playing sims since quite sometime now & these basic things we take it as being a given.

 

i dont understand... how will a joystick help in this case?

 

Thanks like having an electric power windows in your car, short inputs on up - down make it stop where U want it.

 

But seriously, go get a joystick, it's waaaay more precise than arrow keys!

[aap_flanker]

Thanks like having an electric power windows in your car, short inputs on up - down make it stop where U want it.

 

But seriously, go get a joystick, it's waaaay more precise than arrow keys!

 

thats exactly what I mean...

It couldn't be more clear :thumbup:

[BattleAxes Skinner]

Thanks you guys.

 

U've drilled it down in me quite well to go & get myself a joystick. :)

 

So here i go...

[BattleAxes Skinner]

btw... any suggestions on what joystick should i buy?

[aaron886]

Depends on price range.

[BattleAxes Skinner]

let's say within $30

[EtherealN]

Should do the job: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102204&cm_re=joystick-_-26-102-204-_-Product

 

Bit above your budget, but worth consideration - who knows, maybe you'll find it cheaper in your area: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102002&cm_re=joystick-_-26-102-002-_-Product

[BattleAxes Skinner]

EnthrealN suggest me some brands... n i'll see what i can find here in India.

[mig29]

EnthrealN suggest me some brands... n i'll see what i can find here in India.

 

In India you can get Saitek Cyborg Evo for around Rs2500.

[aap_flanker]

I got this one, and works very well! :)