Overwhelmed with questions. Ill start with one.

[MTFDarkEagle]

cms = counter measure set (see your flight stick: the hat on the left side of it)

 

Don't know the z axis.. you probably best try it out..

 

Btw: you searched the flight manual for cms and couldn't find it? :shocking:

Edited March 27, 2011 by MTFDarkEagle

[bartleby]

Hey guys, I cant find anything in the guide about this, but what is

 

Hotas cms forward/down/left/right/ z axis?

 

 

I did a search in flight manual and no hits, BUT the option is there in hotas commands menu ingame.

 

CMS left/right changes the active countermeasures program. Forward starts a program, aft ends it. Not too sure about the z axis - been trying to figure that out myself.

[bloomstomb]

cms = counter measure set (see your flight stick: the hat on the left side of it)

 

Don't know the z axis.. you probably best try it out..

 

Btw: you searched the flight manual for cms and couldn't find it? :shocking:

 

Yeah when you type HOTAS CMS theres no hits in flight manual. I found all the others (china dms, boat etc).

 

I think it spells the whole thing out like counter measures system forward where as the hotkey assignment abbreviates.

 

thanks guys.

[pseudonym]

CMS left/right changes the active countermeasures program. Forward starts a program, aft ends it. Not too sure about the z axis - been trying to figure that out myself.

 

The Z axis activates the jammer.

[EtherealN]

Correct - Z is push-down and activates jammer. The CMS (Countermeasure Management Switch) has 4-way motion for start/stop and selection of CM programs, and pushdown for initiation of jammer sequence.

[S77th-konkussion]

I guess you get what you pay for . Hog is 6x more expensive.

 

Im also looking at the x-65f. Im def going to get the x52 or this i think.

 

 

Also the targeting pod, sorry noob question but is that a part of the a10 system ? Were the pilots not able to zoom, because if not then I will just stick to imersion.

 

thx

 

CH Products are WORLDS ahead of Saitek X52 pro in HATS and programmability, reliability, support, and cheaper than an X65. A little more money than an X52 pro- but when it breaks- you easily exceed the cost of CH when you replace it.. Saitek Combat rudder pedals 100% better looking though- I'll give em that.

[tmahring]

Correct - Z is push-down and activates jammer.

So thats why I couldn't finish the training mission ! The voice tells you to push the CMS down which i thought ment the regular CMS down command.

[bloomstomb]

CH Products are WORLDS ahead of Saitek X52 pro in HATS and programmability, reliability, support, and cheaper than an X65. A little more money than an X52 pro- but when it breaks- you easily exceed the cost of CH when you replace it.. Saitek Combat rudder pedals 100% better looking though- I'll give em that.

 

Hmm yeah you are right. I will go with ch over saitek. Going to check out the prices now.

 

 

Oh an Wow thats what z axis does. I kept pressing it and couldnt figure it out yesterday.

 

Thanks again.

Edited March 28, 2011 by bloomstomb

[S77th-konkussion]

I would recommend Provantage Best $ I've ever seen. Often people in your shoes are faced with a budget driven conundrum: track IR. Hotas, rudder pedals...

 

Although it is common advice to delay on rudder pedals (in favor of HOTAS & Track IR) I must say that the pedals here are so cheap - it would be somewhat foolish to skip them. Mine were $110 or so back 2 or 3 years ago.. You already have a track ir so basically for $69 difference- you're fully equipped.

Edited March 28, 2011 by S77th-konkussion

[bloomstomb]

I would recommend Provantage Best $ I've ever seen. Often people in your shoes are faced with a budget driven conundrum: track IR. Hotas, rudder pedals...

 

Although it is common advice to delay on rudder pedals (in favor of HOTAS & Track IR) I must say that the pedals here are so cheap - it would be somewhat foolish to skip them. Mine were $110 or so back 2 or 3 years ago.. You already have a track ir so basically for $69 difference- you're fully equipped.

 

 

Im not a fan of rudder petals, I dont think this has a twist rudder tbh. Cant find it in specs.

 

That would be game breaker for me.

[S77th-konkussion]

Your call- but you'll be missing out on a great deal of realism & immersion. Planes have pedals. Serious flightsticks do not have twisting rudders. DCS finally FINALLY addressed something that was sorely painfully lacking in LOMAC- differential toe brakes. Adds a whole new dimension to landing. ;) Getting on the ground is just the beginning. hate to see you or anyone miss out on that, and the other real functions of the pedals.

Edited March 28, 2011 by S77th-konkussion

[bartleby]

The Z axis activates the jammer.

 

That's good to know. So maybe getting shot down so often wasn't entirely my fault!

[Shootist]

Hate to put your mind in the gutter, Bloomstomb but, the lowly Logi Extreme 3D stick I bought for under a hundred is working just fine for me. And it has throttle and twist for rudder. Just sayin.

[Temphage]

Your call- but you'll be missing out on a great deal of realism & immersion. Planes have pedals. Serious flightsticks do not have twisting rudders. DCS finally FINALLY addressed something that was sorely painfully lacking in LOMAC- differential toe brakes. Adds a whole new dimension to landing. ;) Getting on the ground is just the beginning. hate to see you or anyone miss out on that, and the other real functions of the pedals.

 

It doesn't, however, simulate hot brakes so steering and keeping yourself on the runway with the differential brakes is really easy :P

 

Or at least I don't think it has hot brake conditions...

[S77th-konkussion]

I would say you're wrong. I 've seen what appears to be degraded brake performance both after what was likely over use and (what appeared to be) wet braking. In fact the wet braking struck me as a little over done- but I have no real life experience to compare...

[bloomstomb]

Your call- but you'll be missing out on a great deal of realism & immersion. Planes have pedals. Serious flightsticks do not have twisting rudders. DCS finally FINALLY addressed something that was sorely painfully lacking in LOMAC- differential toe brakes. Adds a whole new dimension to landing. ;) Getting on the ground is just the beginning. hate to see you or anyone miss out on that, and the other real functions of the pedals.

 

 

Man these forums are expensive!

[bloomstomb]

Hate to put your mind in the gutter, Bloomstomb but, the lowly Logi Extreme 3D stick I bought for under a hundred is working just fine for me. And it has throttle and twist for rudder. Just sayin.

 

 

No t hats quite alright. I'm already there.

[S77th-konkussion]

Man these forums are expensive!

 

Some people take it more seriously than others. I for one- have not spent a fraction of what some people have. If you view a set of top shelf rudder pedals for $69 too expensive--- well.... lol I don't know what else to say to you. Enjoy. :thumbup:

[636_Castle]

I've been simming since Jane's F/A-18 released in 99, and I've never had rudder pedals. :noexpression:

 

Planning on picking up a set in the next week or so. Having brakes set to a tiny button on a Saitek stick is extremely unsafe. :mad: Plus pedals let you be hands free. :)

 

I'll need to find a way to keep my office chair in one place though.

Edited March 29, 2011 by 636_Castle

[jeffyd123]

Personally, I would say if your'e on a budget (like me), pedals are about the last piece of hardware to buy.

 

Im going to build a set and use a generic xbox controller as the "brain". the pedals will just move one of the small sticks back and forth on the controller.

 

total cost wil be about $25.00. Will post pics when i get around to building them.

 

For now i use the twist rudder (which i hate) but flying the A-10 with it is really no big deal... for now.

 

Im on a limited budget and I spent my $$$ on what i wanted and could afford. In hindsight, I should have looked at CH's hardware as it is inexpensive compared to the Saitek X-65, but I do like the X-65 simply because it has A LOT of Hats... 8 in fact. This really does come in handy for a HOTAS layout and as Im planning on using it for other sims that will be coming out in the future, like combat helo.

 

jeff

[S77th-konkussion]

... I should have looked at CH's hardware as it is inexpensive compared to the Saitek X-65, but I do like the X-65 simply because it has A LOT of Hats... 8 in fact. This really does come in handy for a HOTAS layout and as Im planning on using it for other sims that will be coming out in the future, like combat helo.

 

jeff

 

CH has 9 :D

[zamboni]

Having brakes set to a tiny button on a Saitek stick is extremely unsafe. :mad:

 

I agree. I always hated contorting myself into strange positions so I could get my foot to activate the button on my HOTAS. :smilewink:

[bloomstomb]

Personally, I would say if your'e on a budget (like me), pedals are about the last piece of hardware to buy.

 

Im going to build a set and use a generic xbox controller as the "brain". the pedals will just move one of the small sticks back and forth on the controller.

 

total cost wil be about $25.00. Will post pics when i get around to building them.

 

For now i use the twist rudder (which i hate) but flying the A-10 with it is really no big deal... for now.

 

Im on a limited budget and I spent my $$$ on what i wanted and could afford. In hindsight, I should have looked at CH's hardware as it is inexpensive compared to the Saitek X-65, but I do like the X-65 simply because it has A LOT of Hats... 8 in fact. This really does come in handy for a HOTAS layout and as Im planning on using it for other sims that will be coming out in the future, like combat helo.

 

jeff

 

 

Right but so you know theres no twist in ch stikcs. Im pretty sure x65 has that feautre, so even tho ch is cheaper, you still have to buy rudders.

[jiblet]

Since this is a thread for quick questions... Is there any way to prevent the current steerpoint from automatically incrementing when I get to it?

I'm thinking about situations when I want to run multiple passes over the same area (eg. CAS for a dug in infantry unit etc). Its just frustrating when it keeps incrementing to the next point when I want to sit on that one.

 

I guess I should be using mark points or something instead...?

[MTFDarkEagle]

Ye. Use mark points.