How would a British SpecOps FAC read out target coordinates?

[Bahger]

I need to get this right for a mission voice comms file.

 

N 43 02.067

E 044 45.300

 

Would UK military personnel say the "N" as "November" and then read the numbers (using "niner" for nine, if there were a nine)? Then would he/she read out the next line starting with "E" as "Echo"? Or is there another format for broadcasting coordinates? How would the decimal point be broadcast, if at all? Would he say "Break" between the two lines of coordinates?

 

If anyone could supply broad guidelines or text for the above grid ref as spoken, I'd be grateful, thanks.

[todd022]

I'm pretty sure it would be identical to the "yank" we have now....NATO SOPs.

[Speed]

Yea, probably, but they would would probably use MGRS, not the inferior lat/long system.

 

Also, donno how the Brits say it, but for the US over the radio, when calling in things like coordinates, 1 = one, 2 = two, 3 = tree, 4 = fower (say like "flower" without the "l" sound), 5 = fife, 6 = six, 7 = seven, 8 = eight, 9 = niner.

[Bahger]

Thanks. Would they read out "N" and "E" before each series of numbers or is it SOP to assume that the first series is N and the second E, thus eliminating the need to identify each coordinate by letter?

[Speed]

No, they would probably be using MGRS.... just an educated guess.

[Bahger]

Speed, it has to be LAT-LONG, because that is the only coordinate format outputted from the Mission Editor...unless you can tell me how to convert it!

Edited April 7, 2011 by Bahger

[BrumTx]

Being a Brit and having served it is N = November, E = Echo and break

[Bahger]

Thanks Brum!

 

And thanks for your service.

[Apples]

Here is a good site to convert from lat long. Personally i like mgrs a lot better.

 

http://www.humanitarianinfo.org/imtoolbox/03_mapping_gis_gps/gis/coordinate_tools/utm_calculator/wgs84_utm.htm

[Chris CDN]

Speed, it has to be LAT-LONG, because that is the only coordinate format outputted from the Mission Editor...unless you can tell me how to convert it!

 

Just enter the Lat Long into the CDU as a waypoint and switch from L/L to UTM. Let the 'hawg do the math for you.

 

It doesn't just kill thanks people! It does MATH!

[nickmow]

Well as a former soldier in Her Majestys armed forces and spending some of my time as an FAC (before they became JTACs) we would normally refer to what ever chart or map we had. Lat/Long is difficult to plot quickly if you dont have GPS (And we didnt always have one) so it was normal to use a grid reference. As for pronunciation we used "Joint" voice procedure which accounted for the Fowar And niner etc which is a NATO standard. Loving A10 bringing happy memories of talkin in the jets :0). Now all I want to do is spend time on the ground in MP and call in the flyboys to do the nasty to the bad guys.

[Bahger]

That's a great find, Apples, thanks! According to that converter, the above reference, in MGRS is:

 

38t MN 864665

 

Obviously "our" A-10's CDU does not take the 38t. Can anyone confirm if the Central Meridian value should be fixed at 045.00.00.0000 E for these calculations?

 

Now I have to decide what would be more realistic in the scenario, L/L or MGRS. MGRS certainly seems more popular with the players.

[bigdawg]

After serving in the US Army for 20 years and doing a lot of Joint stuff in Europe, I would say it would be with a funny British accent!!!!

[Bahger]

After serving in the US Army for 20 years and doing a lot of Joint stuff in Europe, I would say it would be with a funny British accent!!!!

 

Well I don't know whether to do Colin Firth or Bob Hoskins yet but either way, I hope you will be amused.

[mooshim]

--RIGHT!! Use Mavericks!--that is unless if any of you got anything better to do~?!"

 

[Skarp]

I"m surprised they even have the option to use the old lat long crap. just a 10digit grid or 8 depending on the target size/type/location. you would hear the FAC or grunt on the ground telling you their location, type of enemy, enemy location, and direction of attack. personaly if their is air on dec we would just stop firing mortars. the air will be doing a splended job. if there is a real FAC on the ground you should hear "lightning!" be called out meaning .... he's an expert and knows what he's doing so you wont be nervouse about hitting friendly units.

[Juuba]

That's a great find, Apples, thanks! According to that converter, the above reference, in MGRS is:

 

38t MN 864665

 

Obviously "our" A-10's CDU does not take the 38t. Can anyone confirm if the Central Meridian value should be fixed at 045.00.00.0000 E for these calculations?

 

Now I have to decide what would be more realistic in the scenario, L/L or MGRS. MGRS certainly seems more popular with the players.

 

the 38T is above the ... well there :)

called the "zone" in MGRS. And YES it is indeed handled by our A-10C.

You just dont input it in the same line as the MGRS coordinate-string.

[Tyro-AWG]

If you need someone with an authentic "funny British accent" to read it, let me know!

[Bahger]

I have the British accent, Dukeboy, but thanks. I wrote the SAS into my mission just to give myself a role!

[RodBorza]

...Let the 'hawg do the math for you.

 

It doesn't just kill thanks people! It does MATH!

 

LOL. :megalol: