Wheel Brakes

[Rdiehl3]

In manual p.498 I read on aircraft shut down... 2) Set Wheel Brakes

 

How do I set the wheel Brakes?

 

This might be useful since at times when starting up engines my plane moves or rolls forward.

 

Thanks.:book:

[BimC]

AFAIK there is none simulated. You will have to hold W.

[Snoopy]

Not trying to be mean but if you searched you would have found a TON of threads on this subject....

 

And none are simulated because the A-10 does not have wheel brakes that you can set to hold. If chalks are not installed our pilots have to sit and hold the brakes manually.

[Rdiehl3]

np, ill search b4 I ask.

[lobo]

There's no parking brake. You just have to apply the brakes and hold em.

[Laud]

Map the "W"-key on one of your HOTAS buttons, so it works as a toggle. Push first -> hold "W" Push second -> release "W".

 

That makes your simulation more advanced than the actual aircraft! ;)

[Phuz]

The wheel brakes do seem a bit weaker than I would expect, anyone with them mapped to an axis have better results than holding down 'w' on landing roll?

 

8000 feet to lose 130 knots on a 30k lb airplane seems a bit much.

[GGTharos]

A bit much compared to what? A honda accord? That A-10 is only 30000lb riding on a couple tiny wheels. ;)

[EtherealN]

30k lb's traveling at 130 knots has a LOT of momentum for you to dissipate. :P

 

And to add some detail to the thing of the wheel size - wheels of a given size and a given material (and a given surface material, for that matter), has a given maximum breaking potential. Add more power to the breaks and at most you'll just end up locking them and skid the plane around. You won't add any deceleration. (There's more things playing a part in that, of course, but...)

 

Should also be noted that they rely on more than brute-force wheelbreaks to stop the plane. One nice thing that is present on the A-10C is a set of rediculously oversized airbreaks. Use those. :D

 

Personally I use a procedure that I'm made to understand isn't strictly correct to real-world A-10C operations, but I basically land, hold my nose up while setting airbreaks to maximum deflection, guide the nose down to the ground gently upon decelerating to 90-100 knots, activate NWS around 60, and usually only have to use the breaks for a couple seconds (and usually not full force) at the end of the runways. On the longer runways I can easily find myself not needing them at all.

 

Don't burn rubber and discs through slamming the breaks. The runway is there to be used. :)

[cichlidfan]

The wheel brakes do seem a bit weaker than I would expect, anyone with them mapped to an axis have better results than holding down 'w' on landing roll?

 

8000 feet to lose 130 knots on a 30k lb airplane seems a bit much.

 

I use pedals, so it's an axis, but I did not have them when I got A-10. I think the breaking is about the same, as long as you make sure to apply them evenly.

 

I can't land like EtherealN but I will agree that the speed brakes make a big difference. At low speeds they go pretty much vertical. Using the speed breaks, and wheel brakes, I have no problem slowing down enough. If anything I tend to come in too fast as well!;)

[EtherealN]

I can't land like EtherealN but I will agree that the speed brakes make a big difference. At low speeds they go pretty much vertical. Using the speed breaks, and wheel brakes, I have no problem slowing down enough. If anything I tend to come in too fast as well!;)

 

Quick demo of how I do it is attached. Nevermind the noobishness of landing without killing the weapons, and I made a few slips on the rudders (they weren't completely centered to my feet). :P My break usage is a quick touch after nosegear is flown down, and then some gentle use of it prior to turning off the active.

 

My flares are still a bit sloppy though so there's still room for improvement that might further reduce the need for any use of the wheelbreaks.

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[cichlidfan]

Quick demo of how I do it is attached.

 

Thanks, I appreciate it. My lack of experience is slowly having less impact. Until about five months ago I hadn't ever flown an actual flight 'sim'.

[andyfoot]

Tiger does it in at least one of his tutorials, (SOP 3 Pattern Circuit) which is a method I've now adopted as well

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/Tigerpwrr#g/u

 

On the topic of rolling away on start up, you can also step on your rudder to stop rolling away, not forgetting to engage NWS of course.

[mark35444]

gotta be-careful with the nose wheel EtherealN, If you bounce it too hard (or even at all) it wont go up again and the aircraft will not be mission capable lol some runways are better than others, I find Tbilisi is particularly bad for damaging landing gear.