Paraxanthine Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 This model sold be Amazon is the actual version of Defender Cobra M5 - the 3rd revision without VKB electronics. Or the worst version of this joystick... But is on par with other "entry level" joystick models from Saitek, Logitech, Thrustmaster. Sokol1 Damn :( I hoped you would not say that. How do you know that it's not a real "King version", did you buy one ? I guess there is no known place where i can buy a real "King version" ? I wonder if i will keep this one, or if i will resend it. And i wonder if i can return it and get back the shipping fees. After all, they don't sell the version they indicate
gerd Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 The news about the 3rd generation of m5 are disturbing, but are there any *practical* negative effects for a person who would like to buy the stick as a boxed product without the need for expanding the stick with more buttons, etc? I mean, will we see spiking like with the potentiometer sticks? Is the resolution of axes drastically scaled down?
Sokol1_br Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 How do you know that it's not a real "King version", did you buy one ? This "King" in the Amazon name mean nothing, is just marketing for whatever reason. Don't have VKB electronics, is just a plain version of the Defender Cobra M5: http://eng.defender-global.com/products/game/gamepad/cobra-m5-usb/ The real King Cobra - customized for VKB - have a visible metal plate over the base (to anchor the new metal gimbal), and this is out of production a more than year. I guess there is no known place where i can buy a real "King version" ? What you can buy (from VKB) is the improved version, the Black Mamba. But VKB production is uncertain, then the availability is just in few months of the year. Or you can upgrade this Amazon "King" with VKB electronics: 60$ NJoy32 PRO controller 13$ MaRS sensor (need 2) And, optional: 160$ metal gimbal with ball bearings Sokol1
Paraxanthine Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 This "King" in the Amazon name mean nothing, is just marketing for whatever reason. Don't have VKB electronics, is just a plain version of the Defender Cobra M5: http://eng.defender-global.com/products/game/gamepad/cobra-m5-usb/ The real King Cobra - customized for VKB - have a visible metal plate over the base (to anchor the new metal gimbal), and this is out of production a more than year. What you can buy (from VKB) is the improved version, the Black Mamba. But VKB production is uncertain, then the availability is just in few months of the year. Or you can upgrade this Amazon "King" with VKB electronics: 60$ NJoy32 PRO controller 13$ MaRS sensor (need 2) And, optional: 160$ metal gimbal with ball bearings Sokol1The black mamba (~300$) or the 3 upgrades (~240$) make a huge difference in the final price. I'd liked to, but for this price i still don't have a throttle neither rudder pedals. So, i guess i'll wait for the cobra from amazon, sent it back, and then find another joystick. I didn't want to, but i guess i will take the x52, or maybe the x55
risse Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) I recently started learning DCS with Flaming Cliffs 3 and I ordered a Defender Cobra M5 through Amazon. I'm having a bit of problem with rudder and throttle. Eg. raw values show that throttle only moves in range of 25 - 100 %. Although calibration fixes the throttle, is it still normal? Another problem is with the twist or rudder, which isn't centered. Should I contact Amazon for a new unit this or is this normal behaviour or can I somehow fix this myself? E: Also about ~5 % dead zones on noth ends of X and Y -axis. Edited March 7, 2016 by risse
calagan57 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Hello! sory for my bad english... Please, Can you give me the total height of the joystick? I research data for modeling in 3d. :thumbup: Thank you in advance! Calagan57 Edited October 17, 2016 by calagan57
Sokol1_br Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Maybe help: https://s17.postimg.org/5izx1xb27/Black_Mamba.jpg Sin you will redraw this, "fix" some things, make the palm rest like in Su-27 grip, adjustable, add a shoulder button in left side, like in this mod: https://s21.postimg.org/fb1aqahh3/M5_4.jpg
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