GRoss Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Hi everybody! Just started learning (again, after a looong break) how to handle a10 in dcs a-10c and was trying to play through a few tutorial missions (only tried a few).. most of the ones that start from the ground are alright, but the ones that start in the air are not working as they should I think: I start up the mission (hands off the controls) and after it starts up, I hear the instructor voice saying that its all good and the plane is in autopilot, when it is actually spinning uncontrollably and plummeting towards the ground... which is not.. ideal And another issue with the basic flight and turns tutorial - when asked to do a smooth 360 turn - the tutorial does no progress any further - I am neither being informed that I have not satisfied that requirements of that task, nor that I have completed it successfully - the tutorial just hands there - surely it can't be hard to put in like a 60 second wait delay, after which the user would get told to try again or something... Just sayin - it's quite frustrating..:mad: Otherwise, great sim! :thumbup:
EtherealN Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Version? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
GRoss Posted August 19, 2011 Author Posted August 19, 2011 Not really sure - but got in on 20th of March.. Was this fixed in the later versions?
EtherealN Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 If the splash screen does not say 1.1.0.9, it's not the latest version. ;) (There's been several new versions released since March.) For previous versions, you can find exact version either through checking the file info on the binary folder through windows, or through opening Mission Editor, selecting Misc, and then Credits. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
EtherealN Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 You can find patch directory here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/patches/ And full install download here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?end_pos=135&scr=products&lang=en If you are several versions "behind", which it sounds like you are, it might be more efficient for you to just reinstall with the full installer. (And there's less risk of something random breaking then, as well.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
ivanwfr Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 About navigation test mission: I had the same issue and, after having looked into it with the Mission Editor, I could see that a coarse, speed, altitude test zone was too small for me ... at that time. If you are not inside this zone when your heading is correct you will not trigger the next mission step... and if you expect to get back into the test zone, you will be off coarse and get busted :thumbup: Conclusion, if you have this same issue, you may try a sharper turn or just make the test zone bigger and everything will be just fine.
GRoss Posted August 19, 2011 Author Posted August 19, 2011 Thanks for all your tips!! :D Dloading the latest full install version right now.. a few hours to go lol Hopefully the tutorials have been fixed there!
EtherealN Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 There has been several edits to the training missions, yeah. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
GRoss Posted August 19, 2011 Author Posted August 19, 2011 Oh, and thanks for that ^^ ivanwfr! I'll try checking that out if I still can't pass the tute - although makes me wonder, why would the dev. team not have done that? :(
EtherealN Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 Those missions are extremely complex to make, and were also the first time the system was implemented. Teething issues are expected. ;) There's also of course the "problem" of most developers and testers being relatively accomplished sim-pilots, several also being real pilots. It can then become sort of difficult to come up with all ways of "doing it wrong" to test them since it was so long ago we actually needed tutorials ourselves. It's just hard to test everything, and the only perfect product is the product that never gets released. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
GRoss Posted August 19, 2011 Author Posted August 19, 2011 That is true... (I'm a junior dev myself) - there'll always be issues.. I guess I'll just have to learn how to fly :P
ivanwfr Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 Yeah, after a few weeks (months), of training, I can see that taking care of more than dozens of parameters at the same time like heading, altitude, speed, ... and the corrections to apply to each when they need adjustment. In fact, these difficulties seem to turn into some kind of satisfaction for the exact same reason. You know you've accomplished something with your training. That it was a good investment, even better than good as if you had skipped training any of those vital skills, you will have to live with an uncomfortable feeling of clumsiness until you consider going back to school ;) Check this one that helped me a lot as I created it for the exact same reason. I wanted to be allowed to fail en retry as many times as I wanted: Repeatable maneuvers
Evil.Bonsai Posted August 22, 2011 Posted August 22, 2011 Hi everybody! I start up the mission (hands off the controls) and after it starts up, I hear the instructor voice saying that its all good and the plane is in autopilot, when it is actually spinning uncontrollably and plummeting towards the ground... which is not.. ideal : What controls are you using? If using stick/hotas, make sure any sliders/dials/whatever are centered prior to AP release. This exact thing happened to me, but I found my Rudders were still turned (from a previously aborted taxiing mission).
DTWD Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I had exactly this tonight. I fixed it by unticking the "Syncronize HOTAS controls" blah blah blah option. I think my Warthog throttle had some settings missmatched. Other things that has caused my plane to randomly get inputs was that the default settings had bound an x and y axis to my pedals. So if I pushed the pedals either way and accidently put some brake in I would be inputting roll or pitch commands as well. Regards [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
FreeFall Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 Other things that has caused my plane to randomly get inputs was that the default settings had bound an x and y axis to my pedals. So if I pushed the pedals either way and accidently put some brake in I would be inputting roll or pitch commands as well. I also experienced that "x and y axis tied to pedals" thing. I was a bit confused. :) After installing TM HOTAS Warthog and Saitek Combat Pedals: - unbound the pitch and roll from pedals - inverted the brake axis of pedal toe brakes - unbound the View commands from stick Trim button, and mapped trim instead
DTWD Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 I also experienced that "x and y axis tied to pedals" thing. I was a bit confused. :) After installing TM HOTAS Warthog and Saitek Combat Pedals: - unbound the pitch and roll from pedals - inverted the brake axis of pedal toe brakes - unbound the View commands from stick Trim button, and mapped trim instead LOL snap :D Regards [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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