TAD symbology

[Stingray66]

Two maybe simple question about the TAD and its symbology:

 

1) under which circumstances are all waypoints of a flight plan displayed with a cross in the box - and if I deselect the flight plan the crosses stay...(see screen below)

 

2) Which condition has to be met that markpoint "z" displayed as white triangle? (screenshot below)

 

Thanks

[nomdeplume]

To get the lines you should be in flight plan mode, using either the left hand knob on the CDU panel or FUNC+7 on the UFC. You can also disable these lines using the TAD profiles. In mission mode (MSN) all your waypoints will be displayed but without the connecting lines.

 

The Z markpoint should be shown always, I think. It's created the first time you fire weapons, and updated every subsequent time you fire them. It marks the expected impact point of your weapon at the moment you released/fired it.

[sobek]

1) under which circumstances are all waypoints of a flight plan displayed with a cross in the box - and if I deselect the flight plan the crosses stay...(see screen below)

 

If there are EPLRS equipped friendlies underneath them, methinks.

[Stingray66]

To get the lines you should be in flight plan mode, using either the left hand knob on the CDU panel or FUNC+7 on the UFC. You can also disable these lines using the TAD profiles. In mission mode (MSN) all your waypoints will be displayed but without the connecting lines.

 

The Z markpoint should be shown always, I think. It's created the first time you fire weapons, and updated every subsequent time you fire them. It marks the expected impact point of your weapon at the moment you released/fired it.

 

Didnt mean the lines -> meant the crosses....

 

concerning the Z markpoint, I thought it is a normal markpoint and should be displayed as such (green box) - and not as white triangle...

 

If there are EPLRS equipped friendlies underneath them, methinks.

 

 

could be - but in this mission -> Dragon's JTAC training, there were just enemies...

 

Could the crosses be related some issue with the EGI???

[MTFDarkEagle]

That green cross is indeed EPLRS equipped friendlies.

 

Z Markpoint: it's not a "normal" markpoint, it's a special one :)

[Stingray66]

Z Markpoint: it's not a "normal" markpoint, it's a special one :)

 

:D

 

so always a white triangle ... have to pay more attention to my TAD next time...it never jumped into my eye before...just when messing aroung with JTAC triangles, then it is annoying having another triangle there... :P

 

That green cross is indeed EPLRS equipped friendlies.

 

hmm...what can I do with these?

[MTFDarkEagle]

The explenation nomdeplume gave regarding waypoint z is accurate as far as I know. Maybe you can find a bit more info on it in the manual.

 

Regarding EPLRS: Nothing as far as I know of: it's just to let you know where friendlies are.

[sobek]

hmm...what can I do with these?

 

Not shoot them, for starters. ;)

 

If you have ever played BS, you might know how hard it is without these DL gimicks to tell friend from foe.

[Lane]

I donÄt know for other things, but yes, the green cross mean a friendly units .

 

i have not check yet if they come on tad before or after a Jtac communication who tell you friendly is there at x ..

 

It's important, when they give you a a target they tell you too.. x unit are there ..sometimes not . when you acquire target, you don't want to kill your friendly earth troup.

[sobek]

i have not check yet if they come on tad before or after a Jtac communication who tell you friendly is there at x ..

 

They are there as soon as you turn your SADL on. They constantly transmit their position data over EPLRS.

[Stingray66]

Thanks for all the information - really appreciated!

[Laud]

could be - but in this mission -> Dragon's JTAC training, there were just enemies...

 

Could the crosses be related some issue with the EGI???

 

 

JTAC Training and no friendlies??????? :huh:

 

So the enemy JTAC provided you with target information? ;)

 

And no - it has nothing to do with the EGI. As others said before: It's friendly units that are connected to the SADL/EPLRS network. In your case: The JTAC.

[Eddie]

Two maybe simple question about the TAD and its symbology:

 

1) under which circumstances are all waypoints of a flight plan displayed with a cross in the box - and if I deselect the flight plan the crosses stay...(see screen below)

 

As others have said, the green crosses display the position of EPLRS equipped friendly ground forces. The crosses also show up in the TGP if the relevant unit is in the pods FOV.

 

Not all vehicle types in the sim are EPLRS capable (infantry for example are not), and additionally the mission designer can disable EPLRS. So not all friendlies will show up all of the time.

 

2) Which condition has to be met that markpoint "z" displayed as white triangle? (screenshot below)

 

Mark point Z is the last location you employed weapons. It is only displayed after weapons have been released, and show the point on the ground where the last weapon was aimed on release (not necessarily where it hit). It is automatically overwritten each time weapons are employed.

[Laud]

The mission designer can disable EPLRS. So not all friendlies will show up all of the time.

 

 

Oh really? How/where?

[nomdeplume]

Oh really? How/where?

EPLRS can be disabled in the unit's advanced waypoint properties. Units that are EPLRS-equipped have an 'EPLRS(true)' command automatically added at their first (starting) waypoint. You can change that to false to disable it.

[Laud]

Never noticed. Thanks for that!

[Stingray66]

Mark point Z is the last location you employed weapons. It is only displayed after weapons have been released, and show the point on the ground where the last weapon was aimed on release (not necessarily where it hit). It is automatically overwritten each time weapons are employed.

 

 

Yeah...I know what and how that Markpoint works...it was just the symbology...I obviously never paid much attention but the last time in JTAC training where you handle a lot of little triangles it really popped out ... but now that I do pay attention to this small white triangle, it really is always a small white triangle and not displayed as every other markpoint...

 

And yes indeed, JTAC would not make much sense without friendlies nearby :D

[Eddie]

It was only added in 1.1.0.9 so that's why you may not have noticed it before.

[Laud]

It was only added in 1.1.0.9 so that's why you may not have noticed it before.

 

Yeah, there always seem to be some "special features" not mentioned in the changelogs. :)

 

Or have I overread it?

[MTFDarkEagle]

Or have I overread it?

 

Yep :)

 

Mark Z symbol (white triangle) was added on TAD.

[Stingray66]

It was only added in 1.1.0.9 so that's why you may not have noticed it before.

 

That explains a lot...:thumbup: