danipelos Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 Ok a quick look in the manual and i think you mean the Auxiliary Avionics Panel (AAP) Thats the one I mean :thumbup:
Deadman Posted November 13, 2011 Author Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) I currently don't have either of those knobs you will see there listed in RED but will see what i can find Edited November 17, 2011 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Gadroc Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 I don't Have a CMSP(EWMU) Panel I have been looking for one for over a year now. I don't have a spec on that panel but some good pics and drawings. The photo-etch site has the best pic IMO there is some distortion but no knobs or switches to get in the way. http://www.photo-etch.com/EWMU%20with%20Caution%20Stripes.html I think the switch is a pull to get out of off if you scoped it out to 36 deg it would be in line with a 10 position rotary switch with 5 active positions possibly a 42D36-02-2-AJN Grayhill rotary. The Flat top locking toggles switches I do have are the 12TW1-50M, MS 27754-5M .The jet switch is an 8857K45 MS25125-C3. but if you use it with the drawing from the F-16 MLU manual you should be able to scale it out just remember light plates are a couple of hundreds of an inch smaller than the back plate http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/RGPeters/EWMU.jpg Thanks for the link on the switch. I was looking at these Grayhill 56D36-01-1-AJN... much cheaper but has a 1/8" shaft instead of the 1/4". I had the part numbers for the Flat Tops, but probably going to start with much cheaper non-locking versions (Honeywell NT or LT series). The 11TW1-5M/12TW1-5M $91 a pop unless I can get a group order to get 10 or more then I can get them for $56. Are there any more panels that use them?
Deadman Posted November 14, 2011 Author Posted November 14, 2011 The 12TW1-50M as far as i know this is the only panel that uses it $56.00 a switch is a good price about what i got mine for. Yes I know $200.00 just in switches is fricken nuts but when you have everything else it looks stupid to through a bat switch in there https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Gadroc Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 You know what the difference is between the 50M vs the 5M?
Deadman Posted November 14, 2011 Author Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) The 50 switch is on-on -(on) witch will work for the EWMU(CMSP) panel . The 5M switch is ON OFF ON witch is no good because the panel is labeled is off at the bottom OFF ON MENU information in under the specs tab 12TW1-5M http://sensing.honeywell.com/index.cfm?ci_id=140301&la_id=1&pr_id=125252 12TW1-50M http://sensing.honeywell.com/index.cfm?ci_id=140301&la_id=1&pr_id=125214 You know what the difference is between the 50M vs the 5M? Edited November 16, 2011 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Gadroc Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Thanks. I was looking that TW series spec sheet and it didn't have a 50 listed only the 5. I can account for the on-off-on inside Helios so no big deal there so which ever is cheaper will work for me.
Deadman Posted November 14, 2011 Author Posted November 14, 2011 There are several different variation on the M switch I was lucky and found 4 12TW1-50M on eBay from PLC Center they have tons of switches and electronics a great seller with great service. http://www.onlinecomponents.com/honeywell_12tw1-50m.html?p=11913056 has a couple at $71 a bit high but the 5M are $79.00 and http://www.powell.com/prod_search.php does not have any in stock either https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Afterburn Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) The 50 switch is on-on -on witch will work for the EWMU(CMSP) panel . The 5M switch is ON OFF ON witch is no good because the panel is labeled is off at the bottom OFF ON MENU Not sure if this applies, but I use an ON-OFF-(ON) switch (real cheap) for the Off ON MENU switches. Through the LUA file you can assign the [toggle] button "down" to be OFF and button press "up" to be ON. Same with the MENU [momentary]. "Down" is MENU, and "up" is ON. This behaves the same way any other ON-OFF-ON switch would work in game. I believe it's easily completed in HELIOS, as well, if you don't want to dig into the lua. As far as the casting of the knobs, I either would like none or only a select few, making it less practical on a cost of production standpoint. Great idea, though, for the full-pit people! Edited November 16, 2011 by Afterburn
y2kiah Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Deadman, I have a few one-off knobs already so I would need "almost" a full set I guess. I'm pretty sure I have the knob for the EWMU panel, it has a rounded grip and has some extra height at the bottom to fit the recessed area in the panel. I'll check to make sure, if so I could cast it and send to you so you can reproduce it. Also, I would be looking for just the grip of some of the knobs with an engraved disk on them like the two on the environment panel and one on the intercom panel. What were you planning to do for those?
Deadman Posted November 16, 2011 Author Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) OK first lets Stop talking about Switches please. All the knobs would be cast as I said the painting and or engraving would be up to the buyer to do .I would perfer to sell complete knob sets and not individual knos or small sets for two to three panels but we will see if there is the demand first the investment could be more than i wish to make. I realy don't want ten sets of knob on the shelf. Edited November 16, 2011 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 OK looks like just a few people are interested some of you the voted just for a panel or two did not list witch panels you are interested in please do. It would be very helpful in the lay out. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted December 19, 2011 Author Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) HI Guys sorry I have not posted before but several things have come up in real life that i have had to take care of. With the Christmas season up on us I have had delay the knob project do to lack of cash. The response was very limited with only 13 people interested in full sets and with Dunk from another form closing shop. He was loosing money building replicas. I cannot risk the investment in material and tool to correct get the job done. I have reevaluated what i will build and when. I need the Main instrument panel Fire pull housing and frame of the pit. I may sell of a few extras panel i have after the New year when other may have the cash available to purchase them I will post any link to the sale when it happens Thanks Edited December 24, 2011 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
JCook Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Count me in. I will be interested in a full set of A10C knobs. John
Deadman Posted February 16, 2012 Author Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Hey Guys thing have finally calmed down between R.L and covers just a few more sets out the door and i am done with those. Any way I have returned to looking at casting clear knobs. I have not heard back from Paul on what type of knobs are on the Avionics Auxiliary Panel. I am just looking for an idea of what you guys want. So i can purchase the correct equipment Would you want the knobs drilled for the rotary shafts? What size 1/8 or 1/4? what about set screws? drill and taped the set screws? Paint and laser the? for this option I would have to talk with y2kiah or Gadroc for the laser work HARS Panel LAT dial? ENVIRONMENTAL Panel Flow Level and Temp Level knobs? Intercom Panel Rotary Selector Dial? So let me know guys Thanks Edited February 17, 2012 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted February 18, 2012 Author Posted February 18, 2012 no one interested after all the P.Ms in the last two weeks? Hum well this suxs https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
y2kiah Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I have done engravings for the ENVIRONMENTAL Panel Flow Level and Temp Level knobs, it's no problem I can do more if needed, along with the ones for other panels. The edges would just need to be painted. Anyone who needs them can contact me directly, I will do ONE run and I won't do it until there are enough requests.
Deadman Posted February 18, 2012 Author Posted February 18, 2012 looks good i will make a corel lay out for it with the right font the originals are just glues together aswell https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Tomb Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I will be interested in a full set of A10C knobs, please count me in.
Deadman Posted February 19, 2012 Author Posted February 19, 2012 I have just ordered some equipment and will ordered silicon and resin today. Checking knobs i have to find ones that are with out any damage and trying to find a reasonable priced work bench. This is nuts:pilotfly: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
avlolga Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Deadman, just a reminder that i am for the full set - let me know if you like payment in advance. Thanks for the good and hard work:thumbup::thumbup:
linden Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 i will also be interested in a full set knobs, count me in. If you need some advance payment just let me know. Thanks!!
Gadroc Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Hey Guys thing have finally calmed down between R.L and covers just a few more sets out the door and i am done with those. Any way I have returned to looking at casting clear knobs. I have not heard back from Paul on what type of knobs are on the Avionics Auxiliary Panel. I am just looking for an idea of what you guys want. So i can purchase the correct equipment Would you want the knobs drilled for the rotary shafts? What size 1/8 or 1/4? what about set screws? drill and taped the set screws? Paint and laser the? for this option I would have to talk with y2kiah or Gadroc for the laser work HARS Panel LAT dial? ENVIRONMENTAL Panel Flow Level and Temp Level knobs? Intercom Panel Rotary Selector Dial? So let me know guys Thanks Sorry for delay. Haven't been able to be on the forums as much as normal recently. Obviously if you drill it's easier for us, also you can create a set of jigs to do several. If you do pre-drill the shaft I would make it 1/8", that way it's usable for both. You're setup/jig gets center and if someone needs 1/4" they can just use the 1/8" pilot hole to drill the 1/4". I wouldn't want to pay a lot extra for drilling though.
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