=4c= SVFS Server

[Pilotasso]

Although we had a PayPal button on our old site, we have never received a single cent from anybody outside our group/squad. We spent countless hours trying to make all that work.

 

Ah damn, I have been asking for that feature in the forums recently to help maintain the server. I Hope you guys get it up again when FC3 arrives and arrange a donation system. I will contribute, with modest ammounts but sure will!

 

 

Keep it up.

[Sn0w_Lynx]

see thats just it, its money you all put in the server yourselves. expensive hobby. still not a business. ignore me but still, that money is still spent on yourselves. you want a good populated server for you to play on. its not for the community. and it doesnt have to cost you that much, unnecessary spending.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Ah damn, I have been asking for that feature in the forums recently to help maintain the server. I Hope you guys get it up again when FC3 arrives and arrange a donation system. I will contribute, with modest ammounts but sure will!

 

 

Keep it up.

Thanks Pilotasso, we appreciate it!

 

As of right now, our server is paid for until June. Our squad will then go for a summer brake and hopefully, FC 3 and next DCS module will be available by early/late fall. Then, I hope we will be back on line again.

 

Regards,

[Sn0w_Lynx]

but im done ill stop

[kobac]

i never said anything about hits for cash, that doesnt mean you still dont want hits, all im saying is that you make this way harder than you have to. and by the looks of it, since it was the one way of stopping the attack on your server, it doesnt appear to successful now does it? the only thing you can do is report it to ED and wait for a patch.

 

IM not saying anyone owes me anything, im just pissed off because i went through alot of trouble to try to join your server. i played it in the past, though you guys and 104th were the top servers. then you add the forum registration. after finally getting that done, im banned before i can even alt tab back to the game and join. its just bull$h!t and you know it. You all can leave me banned for all i care i've had it with you all, you couldnt pay me to play on your server. So eat it!

 

 

-edit-

and theres nothing evil-minded about what i said!!!

 

it was blunt, honest, opinion, with a hint of pissed off.

 

 

I'm sorry you had problems with access to our server, but you have to understand that before these hackers attacks, our server was open and without any restrictions. Since the attacks began, we had to take some measures.

As far as hacker attacks , all from LockOn community seeking a solution for it. We try to protect ourselves according to our abilities. For stronger protection is necessary to modify simulation codes which can only ED, so all we are waiting for help from them - because it is primarily an attack on their property.

 

Also our administrators have their own lives, other commitments and other obligations, and may not respond in accordance with the time that you expect. Some bans are automatic - using scripts so that the administrators have no influence on them.

 

Now I have reviewed the list of banned players and you are not among them. Perhaps the ban was temporary, and you got it probably because you violated any of the server rules and fair play. If you are an honest player has no reason to be upset just need to have patience. We are humans and we make mistakes, but any mistake can be corrected.

 

Of course with this writing I do not want to coax you to come to our server. I'm trying to explain the reasons, and to invite other players if they have a problem - write about that in our (English part) forum in order to solve that.

[Frostie]

see thats just it, its money you all put in the server yourselves. expensive hobby. still not a business. ignore me but still, that money is still spent on yourselves. you want a good populated server for you to play on. its not for the community. and it doesnt have to cost you that much, unnecessary spending.

You just don't get it do you. There is nothing personal towards you in the way they have gone about protecting their server.

You have no idea of the resources required to run a squad of 10,20+ members, organising community events, creating new missions for the community to use, running a popular server under constant attack, plus threats of losing your server.

 

This hacker/s that has surfaced over the last few months has killed servers on an hourly basis, not just the game but the machines as well. 4c don't own the server they rent it off a company who is obviously not happy with the attacks and could cut all ties with 4c if they persist. This will leave 4c without a server.

 

So 4c has decided to reduce this serious risk by requesting that permission must be asked for clearance into their server by registrating on their forums, then introducing yourself and then asking nicely for access. By registering this gives them access to your ip which can then be white listed. If your a known member of the community then this process will be a lot quicker than if your an unknown.

 

 

 

When you go to someones party do you introduce yourself or just turn up and freeload? Which do you think is the more respectful approach?

 

4c don't know who you are, the only introduction that you've given to them is a ranting one accusing them of wishing for hits, so how do you expect 4c to approach this. Maybe you want them to bend over backwards for you and put their server and hard work at great risk just to please your impatience. For all they know you could be the hacker. Personally with the lame introduction you've given it would take a fair amount of grovelling to get back in my good books.

 

Just take this bit of advice, when you speak about someone or something you know little about then try not to start off with foot in mouth ranting introductions.

'what is with your freakin forum' is no way to introduce yourself here, and certainly not going to win you any respect. What was wrong with just asking nicely and having a bit of respect and patience for the guys trying to provide you with a free party.

[Sn0w_Lynx]

no i get that you all rent your servers and everyone has their own thing they do outside the game. i had a ban on the forum with no expire date, and when i brought it up on my initial post, he pretty much told me to go F@!$ myself. told me to go to another squad and then have them talk to you guys and have them tell you so you could remove the ban so i could reregrister and then be able to join your server.

 

just like everyone else i just liked to play on populated servers. i didnt expect a timely fix. i just wanted someone to realize how much trouble i was going through, which some of your steps for security seemed excessive seeing that it ultimately came down to ED fixing the issue.

 

and then the whole thing just escalated, so I'm saying I'm sorry for losing my cool right from the beginning. And that it went this long. After that first post i got a lot of your supporters give me PM's that instigated further argument and then other posts, it was just more fuel on the fire.

 

so I'm sorry, no hard feeling on my side of the screen, hope to see you all online in other servers.

 

 

-addition-

 

and just as a final addition in response to server messages I've received, about me Yes I'm newer to DCS series, but I'm not new to flight sims, or online gaming, I've host several dedicated servers for clans in other games like in the battlefield series, run websites. And played alot of flight sims since the first Microsoft combat flight simulator and Microsoft flight simulator 98

Edited March 25, 2012 by Sn0w_Lynx
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[Heli Shed]

no i get that you all rent your servers and everyone has their own thing they do outside the game. i had a ban on the forum with no expire date, and when i brought it up on my initial post, he pretty much told me to go F@!$ myself. told me to go to another squad and then have them talk to you guys and have them tell you so you could remove the ban so i could reregrister and then be able to join your server.

 

just like everyone else i just liked to play on populated servers. i didnt expect a timely fix. i just wanted someone to realize how much trouble i was going through, which some of your steps for security seemed excessive seeing that it ultimately came down to ED fixing the issue.

 

and then the whole thing just escalated, so I'm saying I'm sorry for losing my cool right from the beginning. And that it went this long. After that first post i got a lot of your supporters give me PM's that instigated further argument and then other posts, it was just more fuel on the fire.

 

so I'm sorry, no hard feeling on my side of the screen, hope to see you all online in other servers.

 

 

-addition-

 

and just as a final addition in response to server messages I've received, about me Yes I'm newer to DCS series, but I'm not new to flight sims, or online gaming, I've host several dedicated servers for clans in other games like in the battlefield series, run websites. And played alot of flight sims since the first Microsoft combat flight simulator and Microsoft flight simulator 98

 

:thumbup:

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

and then the whole thing just escalated, so I'm saying I'm sorry for losing my cool right from the beginning. And that it went this long. After that first post i got a lot of your supporters give me PM's that instigated further argument and then other posts, it was just more fuel on the fire.

 

so I'm sorry, no hard feeling on my side of the screen, hope to see you all online in other servers.

If this is your sincere feeling then I will remove you from my ignore list. I too lost my cool on this forum few times ...

 

Now, going back to your original problem. Please take a look at your post #8 on this thread:

 

so i go back to the forum in-case i missed some detail and before i can log in im notified that i am BANNED from the server. i cant even log in. Why are you making it such a pain in the @ss o play on your server!?

 

To better understand, tell me, are you getting a message that you are banned forum or from our dedicated server?

[Sn0w_Lynx]

screenshot

 

heres a screenshot of as soon as i open your forum link, then if i try to log in i get this page again

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

heres a screenshot of as soon as i open your forum link, then if i try to log in i get this page again

PM me your user name you are using to try to log on to our forum. I cannot promise you anything, but I will see what I can do.

[Pilotasso]

I tried to register but I am getting the same error as everyone else (tried different browsers too). How to go around it?

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I've just got back home from a business rip. I'll work with our forum admin to try to resolve these problems.

[FlankerFan2012]

Same issues as most people - I can't register on the 4c forums. I tried a few months ago to register when the password was first implemented, but I had the same issue then as I do now. Please help.

 

I played on 4c before there was a password with the name "TimHorton076". If you look at my stats you'll see the worst I've done is amraam spam or go after ground attack jets :P. Your server is one of the few servers to offer r-77s on the su-27, something I really like.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Same issues as most people - I can't register on the 4c forums. I tried a few months ago to register when the password was first implemented, but I had the same issue then as I do now. Please help.

 

I played on 4c before there was a password with the name "TimHorton076". If you look at my stats you'll see the worst I've done is amraam spam or go after ground attack jets :P. Your server is one of the few servers to offer r-77s on the su-27, something I really like.

I don't know what to say. We have people registering without problems. I, unfortunately can not do much to help due to being really busy with my professional life.

 

I am forwarding this link to =4c= forum moderators, hopefully, somebody will do something about it.

[FlankerFan2012]

I don't know what to say. We have people registering without problems. I, unfortunately can not do much to help due to being really busy with my professional life.

 

I am forwarding this link to =4c= forum moderators, hopefully, somebody will do something about it.

 

Thanks. I'll try internet explorer - maybe it's something to do with firefox.

 

[EDIT] Nope, IE does the same thing.

Edited April 26, 2012 by FlankerFan2012

[FLANKERATOR]

The automatic registration does not work properly. One of the admins has to manually add you to the white list.

Jump in their TS and say hi.