Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Hi Guys. Been away for a while and have decieded to upgrade my ageing system (Athlon 6000+, 4 gig ddr2 ram) 3 year old m/b. Im going for an Asus M5A97 pro m/b, AMD FX6100 Bulldozer (black edition) and 16 gig of Corsair Vengeance ram to go with my Radeon 6850, 1gig vidio card(about the onley decent component I have bought of late:music_whistling: (spent all my money on trackir's ect. in the past). will I be near up there with the BIG guys now.......I hope so:) What do you think? Cheers :thumbup: Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Sorry Mods was too lazy to put it here it's Sunday and i've just come back from church, sorry pub :drink: Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Daze Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 So all you need is a motherboard, CPU and RAM? What's your budget? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] First to Fight, First to Strike.
Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Hi Guys. Been away for a while and have decieded to upgrade my ageing system (Athlon 6000+, 4 gig ddr2 ram) 3 year old m/b. Im going for an Asus M5A97 pro m/b, AMD FX6100 Bulldozer (black edition) and 16 gig of Corsair Vengeance ram to go with my Radeon 6850, 1gig vidio card(about the onley decent component I have bought of late:music_whistling: (spent all my money on trackir's ect. in the past). will I be near up there with the BIG guys now.......I hope so:) What do you think? Cheers :thumbup: Read red! Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Daze Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Read red! Cool. I read the red, and was wondering whether that is all you need and also what your budget was so I can spec you better parts, as the parts you said you were going for aren't entirely good choices. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] First to Fight, First to Strike.
Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Sorry Jasky already bought. Paid about £220 for the bundle (£200 was my budget but sold my wife for the evening so was able to make up the difference) :thumbup: I know its not cutting edge but it will do, won't it? p.s Joshing about the wife... it was all day :music_whistling: Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Bearing in mind in 1997 I paid £120 for 8meg of ram!!! Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EtherealN Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 What is your intended application for this system? Anything in particular besides games? Reason I ask is because Bulldozer is an acceptable server chip. For anything else I consider it a case of massive "meh". It has a weak floating point capacity and integer capacity is highly fractioned - very nice for multithreaded integer workloads like basic server applications, not so good for single/few-thread integer workloads, terrible for single/few-thread floating point workloads. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Bollocks ...........too late should have asked first:( Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EtherealN Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Well, all is not lost, apparently they have a bunch of OS optimizations in the pipeline that will make it work better. From what I heard they needed windows to do some special thread handling to get proper performance out of it, so it is possible that software will fix it. EDIT: http://techreport.com/articles.x/21813/1 There's an old review. Most of the game benchmarks are of questionable use for anticipating DCS performance of course, but if I remember the 6k+ you'll still see a boost in performance. :) Edited March 25, 2012 by EtherealN [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Thanks E. Got a bit of a panic there. Got to be better than i've got though, yes? Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EtherealN Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Oh hell yeah, no worries about that. :) (EDIT: I'm just a perfectionist when it comes to these things so I tend to sort of "write off" anything that isn't just right in the performance/cost department. :) The Bulldozer architecture is plain weird though and definitely did not perform to expectations, but they're claiming thread handling issues there and it might be true given the weirdness of the design, OS updates might fix that.) Edited March 25, 2012 by EtherealN [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Daze Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Also, what CPU cooler are you using? Vengeance is about as high profile as RAM comes so you may run into some issues installing it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] First to Fight, First to Strike.
Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Also, what CPU cooler are you using? Vengeance is about as high profile as RAM comes so you may run into some issues installing it. going to change the stock cooler, can you recomend. Not got much in the way of funds though:( Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Caspet Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Oh hell yeah, no worries about that. :) (EDIT: I'm just a perfectionist when it comes to these things so I tend to sort of "write off" anything that isn't just right in the performance/cost department. :) The Bulldozer architecture is plain weird though and definitely did not perform to expectations, but they're claiming thread handling issues there and it might be true given the weirdness of the design, OS updates might fix that.) Thanks big E you put my mind at rest, might sleep well now :sleep: Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee Muhammad Ali-(Cassius Clay) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Slayer Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 It's about a 3% performance gain on Windows 7 with the hotfixes. MS is working on more stuff for Windows 8 that should trickle down to 7 also. Not sure if they are doing anything for XP or Vista. Hopefully you have Windows 7. Sidenote: These fixes also seem to increase performance on Intel chips too. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System Specs Intel I7-3930K, Asrock EXTREME9, EVGA TITAN, Mushkin Chronos SSD, 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 2133, TM Warthog and MFD's, Saitek Proflight Combat pedals, TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO, Windows 7 x64, 3-Asus VS2248H-P monitors, Thermaltake Level 10 GT, Obutto cockpit
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