SkateZilla Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 A. 6990 is a Generation Old. B. 6990 is TWO 6970 GPUs in Integrated CrossFire Mode. C. Dual GPU with DCS is On/Off, works for some and not others. D. The GPUs on the 6990 are Downclocked to manage TDP. E. 680 is Current Generation F. 680 has the same amount of Shader Pipes as a Single 6970 Core G. as pointed out a above in D, the 6970 cores in the 6990 are downclocked. H. 680 Cuda Cores are More Efficient than the 6970 Cores. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Vlerkies Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 yeah yeah, I get it, I'm just rather miffed about it that is all considering I paid top dollar for a capable machine to run this sim, am not exactly running mutli monitors, and other much more run of the mill less expensive cards work better. :badmood: The card should rock for the sim but doesnt, fact of life, deal with it and adapt. :doh: I have already made my mind up to ditch it and am placing an order for a GTX680 4gb card today. I'll offload the 6990 to some BF3 playing noob tubing grunt :gun_rifle: From my many years of virtual aviation, this is Flightsimming 101 lesson 1, nothing works the first time round, ever :thumbup: Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
Vlerkies Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Don't shoot me please, but a last question. I currently have a PCIe 2 board. With this sim in particular, would a PCIe 3 mobo provide better performance with the 680 or is there nothing in it between 2 and 3? 3770K cpu, Intel chipset 1155 Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
Kuky Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 PCI-E 2.0 is fine... the bandwidth of it is not bottlenecked yet so you're fine with PCI-E 3.0 card in PCI-E 2.0 slot without any performance loss :) 1 PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Vlerkies Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Thanks Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
Darkphox Posted December 20, 2012 Author Posted December 20, 2012 blarg Vlerkies, I'm just as sad the 6990 was limited in DCS, but I think you'll feel a lot better once you get the 680 installed. Look at the bright side, unless you play noob games like BF3, this will be a solid upgrade! EVGA X-58 SLI3 w/ I7 920@ 4.2ghz | Corsair 1000HX | 180gb Intel SSD330 | 12gb OCZ @ 1600mhz | R9 290 3120x1200 (1920 + MFCDs on 2x lilliput UM-80s) Bits: TM Warthog, TM OSBs, Saitek rudder pedals, Logitech G-15 & G-13, Mionix Naos 5k, TrackIR5 w/ proclip, Corsair HS1A
Pilotasso Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 the 680 nearly trumps the 6990, and you dont have to bother with SLi hassle. .
Vlerkies Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah thanks chaps, I did the inevitable and ordered a EVGA GTX680 4Gb FTW card. I have done quite a bit of testing this side to see if I could eek out a bit more performance out of the 6990, so it will be interesting to do a direct comparison in some fashion when the new gpu goes in. I'll report back with some results in about 2 weeks when I get it and the silly season is over. Thanks for the advice. Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
Vlerkies Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Right on :thumbup: First test is in using the FPS Bench track that was posted here (the one where you on the runway and the heli's fly over you) Had track Ir on and looked around a bit while on the runway and ran it for 3 minutes. ATI 6990 Frames 2105 Time (ms)176796, FPS Min - 7, Max - 28, Average - 11.906 GTX 680 FTW 4Gb Frames 5533 Time (ms)182334, FPS Min- 24, Max - 55, Average - 30.345 Admitably the 680 bench was slightly longer (6 seconds), so a few more frames, but the difference is plain to see. This is on full game graphics settings, everything on high,turned on, and 1024 cockpit res, 8x msaa Single monitor 1920x1080. Money well spent. I recorded another track of Sunset Sierra, a short take off and flight to waypoint 3. Have benched that on the 6990 as well, will run the same on the 480 and report back. :drunk::holiday::cheer3nc::clap: Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
SkateZilla Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 6990 = 2 Downclocked 6970 GPUs, 1 Gen Old. 680 FTW = 1 Overclocked 680 GPU, Current Gen. As Xfire is either working or not working based on setups. It's Safe to say it isnt working for You. Which means you're comparing a 1 Gen Old Downclocked 6970 w/ 2GB to a Current Gen Overclocked 680 with 4 GB. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Vlerkies Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Been down that road for over a year SkateZilla, and actually in effect I am comparing 2 cards, be it 1 Gen older, that should work in tandem, but don't. I gave up trying to get it to work is the bottom line. Flogging a dead horse, made peace with it. Sunset Sierra track. ATI 6990 Frames 11316 Time (ms)512479, FPS Min - 7, Max - 48, Average - 22.081 GTX 680 FTW 4Gb Frames 21781 Time (ms)501325, FPS Min- 10, Max - 63, Average - 43.447 Edited January 10, 2013 by Vlerkies Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
Polo Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 Might just add my experiences, given I'm running a 6990 as well. My setup is Eyefinity with 3x24" at 6048x1200 (bezel corrected) and two 8" VGA LCDs with Thrustmaster MFDs. Using SoftTH to transfer the MFD images to the LCDs (basically I setup a renderarea of 6648x1200 and stacked the 2 600x600 images on the RHS of the main display) I'm getting between 15-30 based on inspection. With SoftTH Crossfire is disabled so I'm basically running a 6970 2GB here, O/Cd to 950/1400 (i.e. O/C 6970). From what I remember most graphic settings are on maximum although visual distance is set to Medium with 2xFSAA, TSAA and MFDs at 1024 every frame. MSI shows the GPU usage at between 95 and 99% most of the time. Given these frame rates are similar to Vlerkies' at 1920x1200 with over 3x the amount of rendering I'd suggest there is something in the engine giving the AMD cards issues. Of course this is all totally (un)scientifically proven! Formski Ryzen 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 @ 3600MHz | Gigabyte X570-Aorus Ultra | Gigabyte GeForce 4090 | Samsung C34F791 | Varjo Aero | Windows 11 Pro x64 | Auzentech X-Fi Forte | too many flight controllers...
SkateZilla Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 Cat 12.x Drivers had incorrectly written memory code from what i was told. Hindered all 68xx 69xx 78xx and 79xx cards. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
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