Small Tweaks for External Model

[-Rudel-]

Wags, I saw your reply so hear it goes :)

 

1. I'm not sure if you plan on having access panels as an option to open, but if so and it happens to be the .50 Cal panels....they need to be larger and the long panel longer. I hope you can see the difference. The long panel is suppose to extend a little over to the aerilon.

 

2. I must say, the landing gear doors are almost a dead match to the SIG prints I have. Though there should be a small space near the upper door. I've attached #2 a real photo and screenshot side-by-side.

 

3. The wing root on the trailing end needs some flare. It can be done by a 2d texture, however, the problem is the part above the flap. It's too straight.

 

4. Missing rod in the oil cooler shroud.

 

5. Missing panel lines on the upper oil cooler intake shroud. Including the access panels that need to be moved back on the underside of the wing. I've attached #3 a real photo and screenshot side-by-side.

 

6. Correction of the wing's leading edge lines at the bend.

 

7. There's other stuff, but I gotta have fun too. ;)

 

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Tell your artist and modeler to keep up the great work so far. :thumbup:

Edited May 10, 2012 by -Rudel-
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[Wags]

Thanks, this has now been reported to our art team.

[-Rudel-]

Thanks Wags, It's great texturing this aircraft. Beats the old fashion 512 or 1024 of the old days of Jane's F-15 and 18.

 

I have more on the intake shrouding. The one pictured above is of course civilian, but the attached illistration below would be a war-time series. :thumbup:

[-Rudel-]

I think I figured why I can't get my "almost square" side panel near the oil cooler.

 

The geometry towards the middle of the aircraft needs correction. Not for my sake seriously, but for a more accurate model.

 

 

I attached my example below. In the picture you will see the following:

• Red lines acting as the location of the verticies now.
  
• Green and Yellow lines are a guess-tament based off actual photos.
  
• Blue line is where the UV Map is split.
  

The black panel lines are my rendition and presumably incorrect, but this lower area of the model is making it a hard time because items are incorrect.

 

• The location of the original template's wing flair's panel line is in the correct location. But, the 3d model's wing flair does not line up with the rear of the canopy frame like in the photo.
  
• Along with that the little air scoops need to be positioned reward halfway.
  
• Finally, the 1st cowl flap is to long, the rotation point pushed backwards too and the area where the inside meets the external model needs lengthening and more depth inside.
  

I understand a new template was released, meaning suggestions are being read/listened too. :thumbup: However, because we don't have an update *.EDM we can't really tell what changes were made physically. I noticed one new wire frame object near the radiator though.

 

I hope I'm not being a thorn in a bush. Thank you for listening and creating such a great sim.

Edited May 24, 2012 by -Rudel-
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[-Rudel-]

Wags,

 

I have found a huge dent near the rudder that needs some attention. If corrected, it shouldn't affect the template already released.

 

The tail section at the rudder joint is really off centered too. The vertical stabilizer is canted as well. Very akward looking.

Edited July 3, 2012 by -Rudel-

[MFG62 Joker]

The tail section at the rudder joint is really off centered too. The vertical stabilizer is canted as well. Very akward looking.

 

The empennage is surely not exactly following the roll-axis of the fuselage.

By adjusting the mount of the vertikal part of the empennage a few degrees out of center it naturally comensates for prowash and torque of engine and prop. I don´t have any data on the frame of the pony, but it seems to be correct for me.

[-Rudel-]

I should have been more clear :(

 

The fin and strake (the part added to late model 51Ds' tail) are canted 2-degrees port side... but the modeling of the whole tail is canted itself.

 

The dent on the bottom should not be there, as well as it being canted....And the vertical tail and rudder itself have 0-degrees off-set.

 

The only thing that should be off-set is the front strake/fin

[-Rudel-]

Matt, I noticed the fixes from my first post. Looks good and thank you for looking!

 

Besides the tail section needing a tweek, I've found a rather small error in v1.2.0 edm model's texturing. It's more offset on the left side than right.

 

If your artist hasn't noticed it may or may not cause mis-aligned areas on all his livaries available with the download.

Edited July 13, 2012 by -Rudel-
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[-Rudel-]

Hi again, just in case it was overlooked, the attaching 'pull' wires are missing from the tail wheel doors. See attached :)

 

And was wondering if you might be able to allow us to texture the top side of the tail wheel enclosure instead of the stretching from the side wall. I've attached a screenie of the possible location.

Edited July 17, 2012 by -Rudel-

[DGambo]

Matt, I noticed the fixes from my first post. Looks good and thank you for looking!

 

Besides the tail section needing a tweek, I've found a rather small error in v1.2.0 edm model's texturing. It's more offset on the left side than right.

 

If your artist hasn't noticed it may or may not cause mis-aligned areas on all his livaries available with the download.

hi. fix

[DGambo]

Hi again, just in case it was overlooked, the attaching 'pull' wires are missing from the tail wheel doors. See attached :)

will be added

 

And was wondering if you might be able to allow us to texture the top side of the tail wheel enclosure instead of the stretching from the side wall. I've attached a screenie of the possible location.

compartment for the tail wheel is small and dark, texture, there is nothing to be honest. I will add a shadow

[-Rudel-]

hi. fix

 

Cool, thank you. :thumbup:

 

will be added

 

compartment for the tail wheel is small and dark, texture, there is nothing to be honest. I will add a shadow

 

Yes, there is nothing, but with texturing, we can add a realistic nothing. For example, my attachment...

 

Again, thank you for working hard on this aircraft and the reply. :)

[-Rudel-]

Hi DGambo,

 

I've found a missing actuator on the small oil cooler outlet.

Edited July 24, 2012 by -Rudel-

[-Rudel-]

I just remembered something.

 

The right main landing gear bay is mirrored from the left side. Is it possible to allow us to texture each side independantly?

 

I only ask, because the center beam is different on both sides. One shows a pressure gauge face, while the other shows the back of it.

 

See attachments :)

[-Rudel-]

Hi again, I found an area of the wing root (over the flap) that does not match the top-side.

 

Please see attachment :thumbup:

[-Rudel-]

:worthy: Hope I'm not bothersome. Something new for the wheels I found.

 

The rear hub shaded in red should not spin with the wheel. Please see attachment.

[DGambo]

Hi again, I found an area of the wing root (over the flap) that does not match the top-side.

 

Please see attachment :thumbup:

Hi. do not understand what you mean

[-Rudel-]

Hi DGambo, the view from the bottom shows it straight instead of curved like the top view.

 

In my attachment above. The straight line is the error

 

Sorry for the confusion.

[-Rudel-]

"Ali Fish" has brought this up before, and I haven't found a way to fix it utilizing SPEC, NMp, or DIF maps yet.

 

The mapping of the textures needs a small fix on the right side on the intake shrouding. I provided a screenshot from the game and Model Viewer respectfully.

 

The light transition doesn't smoothly flow over the poly edges.

[Ali Fish]

im pretty sure there is still an issue over the top of the right wing too around the mid section.

 

btw rudel whats graphics card you using?

[-Rudel-]

There are other areas, but not as eye catching as above. I use 2 x 580s

[-Rudel-]

Hi DGambo, I found an error in the stabilizer's trim tabs.

 

Left Stabilizer: Trim Tab Actuator should be on the bottom.

Right Stabilizer: Trim Tab Actuator is not in the correct position.

 

I have included screenshots, and the sample template to help you align the actuators.

 

Cheers!

[Echo38]

I found a visual damage model problem. Bullet holes show through the airplane and show the airplane to be hollow (including where one should see engine etc.). Here's a one-minute video showing off the problem.

[DGambo]

Hi DGambo, I found an error in the stabilizer's trim tabs.

 

Left Stabilizer: Trim Tab Actuator should be on the bottom.

Right Stabilizer: Trim Tab Actuator is not in the correct position.

 

I have included screenshots, and the sample template to help you align the actuators.

 

Cheers!

thx. change will be in the patch. Improved the model

[DGambo]

I found a visual damage model problem. Bullet holes show through the airplane and show the airplane to be hollow (including where one should see engine etc.). Here's a one-minute video showing off the problem.

at this picture can not see. maybe you have an early beta