Zakatak Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Currently, you have no labels, or color coded labels that can be read from 100km away. For some players with smaller or blurrier monitors, going no labels can be obscenely difficult because it would be the same as flying with 20/30 vision. At the same time, flying with labels on is ridiculously easy because you know exactly where the enemy is from anywhere. Add a 3rd label option, or "pilot vision". 1st value = shows up as grey tickmark 2nd value = shows up as grey enemy type 3rd value = shows up in green (friendly) or red (enemy) 4th value = label disappears (easily seen) Bombers/Transport = 30, 6, 3, 1 Fighters/Strike = 25, 5, 2, 1 Helicopters = 24, 4, 2, 1 Armor/SAM = 16, 3, 1, 0.5 Soft/Defenses = 15, 3, 1, 0.5 Values are in kilometers. Would this be a good idea?
Dejjvid Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Currently, you have no labels, or color coded labels that can be read from 100km away. For some players with smaller or blurrier monitors, going no labels can be obscenely difficult because it would be the same as flying with 20/30 vision. At the same time, flying with labels on is ridiculously easy because you know exactly where the enemy is from anywhere. Add a 3rd label option, or "pilot vision". 1st value = shows up as grey tickmark 2nd value = shows up as grey enemy type 3rd value = shows up in green (friendly) or red (enemy) 4th value = label disappears (easily seen) Bombers/Transport = 30, 6, 3, 1 Fighters/Strike = 25, 5, 2, 1 Helicopters = 24, 4, 2, 1 Armor/SAM = 16, 3, 1, 0.5 Soft/Defenses = 15, 3, 1, 0.5 Values are in kilometers. Would this be a good idea? The idea is good. But IMO only use the grey marker until you're close. No text and no different colors. That would ruin the gameplay. i7 8700K | GTX 1080 Ti | 32GB RAM | 500GB M.2 SSD | TIR5 w/ Trackclip Pro | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder [sigpic]http://www.132virtualwing.org[/sigpic]
Pikey Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I'm here with a vote for yes, but not necessarily in the same manner as the suggestion. I'd like to ask opinions of many others. For example...what about labels that only appear at certain ranges and degrees off the centre of your screen? So effect would be, to see nothing. Look near object, grey dots, look at object, contrasting dots, range closes, perhaps information. Something like this. Or something completely different. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
Pikey Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Oh, also removing labels through cockpit clouds and buildings...I appreciate that could cost too much CPU but worth an ask. Also what about simulating glinting/movement with a small antialiased splodge or blur instead of a label on something distant? ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
Dejjvid Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I'd just like a small cue so I know where to focus. I only have a 27" inch monitor. The people flying with 52" and projectors have it far more easy to spot targets. i7 8700K | GTX 1080 Ti | 32GB RAM | 500GB M.2 SSD | TIR5 w/ Trackclip Pro | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder [sigpic]http://www.132virtualwing.org[/sigpic]
Mouse Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Try this thread: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=85373
neroroxxx Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 i always wondered about this! i would be happy being able to have the option to show no text just the dot and no color difference. This is also good to learn how fly without labels, without the label itself you don't know what threat you have, a red dot on the sky could be a fighter or a transport, either way you have to worry, a dot on the ground could be a furl truck or a SAM, without the color itself you'll have to get used to confirming who you are shooting at. Either way, win, win. Nero 27" iMac, 3.4GHz i7 Quad Core, 16GB Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb, Running Bootcamp, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Saitek X-52 Pro
waylander Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 i think it would be nice to have a option like falcons smart scaling, makes flying without labels a lot easier
Weta43 Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 i always wondered about this! i would be happy being able to have the option to show no text just the dot and no color difference. You do currently, you can edit the labels.lua to change both the symbol (to a . or a _|_ or anything you like) and distance the symbol appears at, and the colour of the labels - so both can be gray or any other colour you want (I have mine a dark purple) Cheers.
neroroxxx Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 You do currently, you can edit the labels.lua to change both the symbol (to a . or a _|_ or anything you like) and distance the symbol appears at, and the colour of the labels - so both can be gray or any other colour you want (I have mine a dark purple) well look at that! i just tried it and worked great! thanks! although it'd be easier if it was in game but still works! :-) Nero 27" iMac, 3.4GHz i7 Quad Core, 16GB Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb, Running Bootcamp, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Saitek X-52 Pro
cichlidfan Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 well look at that! i just tried it and worked great! thanks! although it'd be easier if it was in game but still works! :-) Given all of the different preferences people have in this area (as seen in other threads on the subject), it is probably most useful just to have the information on how to do it available in the forum. This provides a near infinite variety of options and is not overly difficult to alter to suit any individual's wishes and doesn't require additional effort on EDs part. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
neroroxxx Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Given all of the different preferences people have in this area (as seen in other threads on the subject), it is probably most useful just to have the information on how to do it available in the forum. This provides a near infinite variety of options and is not overly difficult to alter to suit any individual's wishes and doesn't require additional effort on EDs part. I hear ya, I went ahead and changed it to all grey rgb 150,150,150 and looks god now I just need a fighter jet on dcs world and I'm golden Nero 27" iMac, 3.4GHz i7 Quad Core, 16GB Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb, Running Bootcamp, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Saitek X-52 Pro
Pikey Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 This isn;t what the thread was about. We directed back here from the one that was linked in order to get a wishlist for something better. I've already edited my labels but the discussion was back on the thread linked above. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
Suchacz Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 I use this labels settings: AirFormat = {} AirFormat[1000] = "" AirFormat[2000] = "'" AirFormat[5000] = "'" AirFormat[15000] = "'" GroundFormat = {} GroundFormat[1000] = "" GroundFormat[2000] = "'" GroundFormat[5000] = "'" GroundFormat[8000] = "'" NavyFormat = {} WeaponFormat = {} WeaponFormat[2000] = "'" -- Colors in {red, green, blue} format, volume from 0 up to 255 ColorAliesSide = {0, 0, 0} ColorEnemiesSide = {0, 0, 0} If some object is far than 1000m, than it shows little black dot, without any text. Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
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