Cna I run Flaming cliffs 2 with my pc?

[snrk]

Hello!

 

I currently have LOMAC and it works fine.

 

Based on your experience, do you think my pc could smoothly run Flaming cliffs 2, at least on low settings? I have:

 

Dual core 2.1Ghz (t4300)

3 Go RAM

Geforce 512 mo ram (G102M)

 

I meet the requirements but sometimes it's not enough.

 

Thanks! :)

[Drona]

Hello!

Dual core 2.1Ghz (t4300)

3 Go RAM

Geforce 512 mo ram (G102M)

 

Is this a laptop? Based on the little information given, my guess is it should run on low settings.

[Exorcet]

Your computer seems to have specs close to one of my old laptops which was able to run FC2, though it was sometimes a bit choppy. I don't remember what my exact specs were for that machine.

 

My current laptop with 2.4 GHz i5's, 6 GB RAM, and 1 GB graphics card can run FC2 maxed out with very high FPS, and can hold decent to good FPS counts in busy missions.

[snrk]

Do you think Flaming cliffs 2 would run so poorly that I shouldn't get it and I should stay with LOMAC?

 

More detail informations:

 

Asus k50in laptop (bought in january 2010)

Intel Pentium Dual-Core T4300 : 2.1 GHz 1M L2 Cache 800MHz FSB

NVIDIA GeForce G102M, with 512MB VRAM

RAM: 3 Gb DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM, 2 x SODIMM

HD: 320 Gb

Display: 15.6" HD (1366x768)

Windows 7 sp1

 

Thank you... :)

[Exorcet]

I didn't really give you an answer because I honestly can't remember the exact specs of my old computer so I was reluctant to compare. FC2 was certainly playable on my old laptop, but some situations put a strain on the system (BTW I'm not a computer guy so I wouldn't be surprised if my old laptop wasn't set up very well)

 

I think that FC2 should run fine on your machine. You may need to avoid large missions and the highest graphics settings, but it should be playable.

 

I think, with much uncertainty, that my old laptop had these specs:

2 GHz dual core CPU

2 GB RAM

160 GB HDD (I'm actually pretty sure about this one)

probably less than 1 GB graphics card

1920 x 1200 HD

Windows XP

[PeterP]

Answer:

Try it out yourself...:music_whistling:

 

Download DCS World and have a spin in the Su-25T that is free for single-player.:)

>>> http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?ProductId=21&end_pos=137&scr=product&lang=en

 

maybe this will not be a true benchmark for FC2... - but it will be more than sufficient to see how FC3 will run on your system.

Edited July 23, 2012 by PeterP

[Exorcet]

maybe this will not be a true benchmark for FC2... - but it will be more than sufficient to see how FC3 will run on your system.

That's an understatement. DCS World is pretty useless for benchmarking FC2. They are worlds apart on my computer, FC2 is literally 10 times better in terms of FPS.

 

I'm not quite sure why my computer hates World so much, but hopefully I'll get a new machine soon enough.

[snrk]

So I now have Flaming Cliffs 2

 

But, even with the lowest settings possible, it's totally unplayable because the fps rate is extremely low: I'd say I only see 4 images / secondes, especially when I turn. :(

 

I don't understand since I exactly have the recommended system requirements, as you can see below.

 

Asus k50in laptop (jan 2010)

Intel Pentium Dual-Core T4300 : 2.1 GHz 1M L2 Cache 800MHz FSB

NVIDIA GeForce G102M, with 512MB VRAM

RAM: 3 Gb DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM, 2 x SODIMM

HD: 320 Gb

Display: 15.6" HD (1366x76)

Windows 7 sp1

 

Ubisoft recommends intel core duo, 3gb ram and 512 mb video card. That's exactly what I have.

[PeterP]

G102M <<< Sorry, but you have not the recommend system.(even if the manufacturer will try to make believe this to you...)

 

You may want to read what a "M" means.

A search-machine of your choice is your friend :)

Edited July 27, 2012 by PeterP

[snrk]

From what I saw, I'd need a lot more than "no M" on my geforce video card name. I'd need 2 times more power: 1gb video card and 6gb ram

 

This is awfully dishonest to claims that these requirements are recommended! I don't buy often games... Maybe you are a lot more accustomed to that. But when a product doesn't do what it claims, you should get a refund.

 

:mad::mad:

[Novum]

=D EDs software can be a resource hog on your machine, But there are more to it.

 

How is your system performing?

Lots of stuff going on and you bring your machine to its knees..

And knowing windows based laptops you have tons of bloatware installed

 

If you allready not have done it, give your system a good clean of all the bloatware and other things.

 

Remembering buying stuff so i meet the minium requerments of Lock On..

And, yeah game dint work at all

[PeterP]

From what I saw, I'd need a lot more than "no M" on my geforce video card name. I'd need 2 times more power: 1gb video card and 6gb ram

 

This is awfully dishonest to claims that these requirements are recommended! I don't buy often games... Maybe you are a lot more accustomed to that. But when a product doesn't do what it claims, you should get a refund.

 

:mad::mad:

I understand your frustration.

 

 

But Here is a big But:

 

No!- why ED has to care that you got tricked from a hardware supplier?!

 

sorry: but a pc is no x-box ... I hope you get my point.

[snrk]

So I can't play Flaming cliffs 2, but maybe could play Flaming cliffs 1? (?)

After all, my computer runs Lock On perfectly.

 

Do you think Lock on and Flaming cliffs 1 have similar system requirements?

If I can't run Flaming cliffs 2, doesn't that mean I can't run Flaming cliffs 1 too?

 

Despite my search I can't find this information... :huh:

 

(Believe me my laptop is very clean!!! ;) )

Edited July 28, 2012 by snrk

[Cali]

Your laptop is very underpowered to play FC2. This there anyway you can get something better? I played lock on with a AMD 64-bit 2Ghz, ATI 9250se.....could I play FC1 or 2 with that, I doubt it. Another thing, do you have all settings on low?

[garengarch]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=869245#post869245

 

From an old thread, as I couldn't remember.

As you see my laptop ran at 30-odd fps but had 4gb memory.

Did you install out of \program files (x86)?

processor was 2.1 dual iirc.

 

Can you upgrade your main memory? Seems likely suspect.

Edited July 28, 2012 by garengarch

[snrk]

No, I haven't installed Lock On and FC2 in "program files". I installed my software in a different partition: on X: Applications. I also have C: Windows 7 and Y: Data.

 

Settings is lowest possible.

Can't put more than 3gb RAM because it's 32bits and of course, can't change the video card since it's laptop.... I wasn't supposed to play game with it... ;)

 

Thanks for trying to help me.

Edited July 29, 2012 by snrk

[EtherealN]

This is awfully dishonest to claims that these requirements are recommended!

 

Your system does not, actually, reach the recommendation.

For graphics card, the recommendation is a GF8800. The G102M is newer than the GF8800, yes, but it is considerably weaker.

 

Some raw data comparison,

GF 8800 (weakest variant to strongest) | G102M

Pixel fill rate: 6.6GP/s : 14GP/s | 1.8GP/s

Texture fill rate: 12GT/s : 41GT/s | 3.6GT/s

Video Memory bandwidth: 38.4GB/s : 86GB/s | 6.4GB/s

"Raw" processing power: 346GFLOPS : 624GFLOPS | 48GFLOPS

 

Unfortunately there are so many variations of graphics cards that giving an exhaustive recommendation is impossible. The G102M is, however, not intended in any fasion towards playing computer games

 

I believe your mistake was that you considered your GPU as newer than the GF8800 and thus believed that you reached recommendation?

 

I am unsure what you mean when you state "Ubisoft" recommends - Ubisoft has nothing to do with Flaming Cliffs 2, except that LOMAC (which is a Ubisoft product) is required to install FC2 for legal and business reasons. After install, FC2 is a separate, and stand-alone product.

[snrk]

EtherealN, do you think that most of the graphic cards with 512Mo would do the job with this game? I understand there are differences between different chipsets, but I find hard to believe that 512 Mo is your (ED) RECOMMENDED settings (where not talking about minimum settings).

 

I think that any player of FC2 would recommend a video card with 1 Go ram.

 

I think ED took the lowest recommended requirements possible to get more buyers. Thought ED is certainly not the only one to do that.

 

Sorry for stating wrongly Ubisoft.

I asked to this forum about the requirement before buying. I did that because I have no knowledge about graphic cards.

My mistake was to not wait longer for more answers; the first answers told me that I would be ok....

 

[EtherealN]

Here's the recommendation:

 

Recommended system requirements: Windows XP, Vista, 7; CPU Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD X2; RAM 3 Gb; Video 512 Mb RAM (ATI Radeon HD4850 or nVidia GF8800), DirectX9; 6 GB of free space on HDD; Sound card; Copy protected, requires internet activation; Joystick.

 

Note that the recommendation is not "anything with 512MB vRAM". The recommendation is a 512MB version of HD4850 or GF8800.

 

The minimum requirement is exactly that - an absolute minimum towards running the simulator at all.

[snrk]

Here's the recommendation:

Note that the recommendation is not "anything with 512MB vRAM". The recommendation is a 512MB version of HD4850 or GF8800..

 

Still 512 mb vRAM is enough for only few graphics cards. I wouldn't recommend it for a friend, especially if he can't make the difference between two graphics card name, like G102M and GF8800...

 

Whatever, I have good news. After a search on this forum, I have made some tweaking in the graphics.cfg file and with the Windows 7 Aero theme turn to off, the performance is enough to be able to play, and that's what's important. I'm getting frame rate over 20. :megalol:

 

Bye I'm gone...

[Exorcet]

Just in case you come back, this has reminded me of an issue that I had with clouds early on. A change to one of the files improved playability quite a lot, though I imagine that's one of the things you changed in the cfg file.

 

In case it's not, there is a thread on here that discusses the issue. I don't remember what it was called, but you might find it through the search function.

 

 

EDIT

 

 

And here it is

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51536

Edited July 30, 2012 by Exorcet

[snrk]

Thanks a lot Exorcet.

You're talking about CloudAspectThreshold. If I'm right, it represents the time, in seconds, between each clouds movement. If you set it to 60, clouds will move only each minute, which make the things easier for the graphic card.

 

For the benefice of other who would have the same problem than I had, you can see below the modifications that I made to graphics.cfg and that let me have a better frame rate. They have been suggested by isoul in a different discussion. I repeat that I also disable the Windows 7 aero theme before playing, by selecting a theme like high white contrast.

 

I wonder if someone have made a software with an interface that let you change easily the values of the graphics.cfg and options.lua files, without deleting accidentally an important character like ;

 

Medium

{

near_clip = 0.2;

middle_clip = 3;

far_clip = 80000;

 

structures = {80, 5000};

trees = {1000, 7000};

dynamic = {300, 20000};

objects = {3000, 20000};

mirage = {1000, 5000};

surface = {5000, 15000};

lights = {100, 30000};

 

lodMult = 1;

lodAdd = 0;

 

..................

 

LandLodDistances

{

LandDay

{

L01 = 12000;

L12 = 32000;

}

LandNight

{

L01 = 10000;

L12 = 30000;

}

................

MFD

{

L01 = 10000;

L12 = 15000;

}

...............

ScreenshotQuality = 90;

ScreenshotName = "ScreenShots/ScreenShot_%03d.jpg";

ScreenshotExt = "jpg";

EffectOptions = 0;

Exhaust = 0;

ShadowDensity = 0.6;

PilotName = "No";

FogParam1 = 2.5;

FogParam2 = 2.5;

CivilianRoutes = "";

AviFolder = "Movies/";

PilotNames = 0;

MaxFPS = 60;

AdvancedEffect = 0;

TreesQuality = 3;

TreeDistance = 870;

RenderEffect = 0;

ObjectTextureQuality = 1;

LandScapeTextureQuality = 1;

CloudAspectThreshold = 60;

 

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