Doubt with wiring

[JAG]

Hi, will try to make an extension using a MS FF2 and CH Figherstick, and in the store there are two different kind of wires. I noticed the joysticks use a very thin cable, so my doubt is which one is the most appropiate. :helpsmilie:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

[PeterP]

really - it doesn't really matter at this scale.

The electrons will find their way. - take the one that you suits you best.

 

 

I for instances use for all my stuff the cables I find in a old VGA extension - so I have 15 cables that have different colours -to prevent confusing.

 

 

here is a example how this can look:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1419319&postcount=24

 

Maybe some with more knowledge about electric wiring can give you more info.

 

 

Don't know if you use this tutorial - so I post it - can come in handy for you:

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=47596

 

Check the images in this thread!

 

Edited August 16, 2012 by PeterP

[JAG]

Hello PeterP

 

In that case will be the tinned cable, is more flexible than the other but it's thicker.

 

By the way two questions?

 

1- Do you think a counterweight will be needed, the fighterstick grip is very light but what do you think?

 

2- Can you explain me a little bit about how to "disable" the detection of the diode in the MS FF grip without disabling the whole joystick?

 

 

Thanks :smilewink:

[JAG]

Wow great images, and have no idea about that post, but it's amazing, thanks a lot. I'll try to make it in stages, first one is testing the "weight" of the extension made of copper, the length will be aproximatelly 12 to 15 cm, if the MS joystick works fine, the next step will be the mapping and soldering of the new wires for both joysticks and make use of the buttons from the MS joystick.

 

 

 

Here are some images of the work in progress

 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2012 by JAG

[PeterP]

1- I think its answered with the thread I posted - no - I don't think that a counterweight is needed. - but I'm sure you will make your tests how far you can go with the extension.

 

2 - I found out that I simply could cut the wires to the "dead-man" sensor and it was always on. I added a switch to turn the power on/off when needed.

 

 

Please look also how the the hall-sensors are attached. I did the same and use this axis in the A-10 and so on.

 

I use the X/Y of the MSFFB2 only in the Ka-50 because there is a absolute sync between the motors and axis movement needed for trimming properly.

 

You can neglect it for fixed wing aircrafts -as only the relative position is important for trimming them.

Edited August 16, 2012 by PeterP

[JAG]

sorry I viewed the post after posting the questions :doh:

 

using hall effect sensors will be cool, but I have no experience using them, will have to stay with the pots in the ms joy.

[PeterP]

its really straight forward - have a look:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1428398#post1428398

 

you just have to attach the hall-sensors (about 3€ each) to the axis wires of the fighter-stick controller-board.

Edit:

Had a look at your pictures - make sure you have a little longer joint that goes a little deeper in to the Grip - think about that it should last the next coming years - and how it looks now I think that the small plastic pin that holds the lateral movement will brake after some use.

Don't underestimate the forces you put on it.

Edited August 16, 2012 by PeterP

[JAG]

Don't look complicated, but about linearity, you said it's affected by the magnet position, in that case they need to be place in an exact position and distance from the sensor?

[PeterP]

Yes - finding the right position can be a time-vampire. But once it is set ... you never have to touch them again - as all works friction less.

 

I would do it - it's only a small step in the whole building process and you can now reach everything easily.

 

and don't expect to get them 100% linear - but you can fix it by adding a custom curve later on - so you won't notice.

 

follow the links - look at the pictures - google from time to time - and you will see how easy it is.

Edited August 16, 2012 by PeterP

[JAG]

Sounds very tempting, will check it out this weekend and see what sensors and magnets are available at the store, and maybe apply it too to the trim box. :thumbup:

[BigfootMSR]

PeterP is macGyver with random electronic components LOL Give him some solder, a couple wires, a few springs, and some scrap metal, and you would be amazed at would he could come up with Haha. :thumbup:

[JAG]

PeterP is macGyver with random electronic components LOL Give him some solder, a couple wires, a few springs, and some scrap metal, and you would be amazed at would he could come up with Haha. :thumbup:

 

I Agree :thumbup: