0utLAW Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 I'm flying the A-10C- Instant action- Georgia mission and I'm trying to take out way point 3 Patrol with some M-151s and guns. Every time I run in with the rockets they don't seem to hit anything. They seem to be hitting very low left. I was able to clear the area in one pass one time out of 50 tries. I'm flying it over and over again waiting to just get lucky. How can I be more accurate with these rockets? Is it possible? i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
WildBillKelsoe Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 the CCIP reticle with pipper inside it, calculates the impact point based on constant load factor, bank angle and pitch. Thus you need to be very trimmed and on one speed using airbrakes on final. A superb article can be found about CCIP bombing in SimHQ by Andy Bush. Also, take into account gravity drop. So, ultimately, aim high, miss low. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Meatwod Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 The waypoint has vehicles and infantry. It's very easy to kill the vehicles and overlook the infantry. It's pure luck if you volley all of the rockets and manage to kill all of the infantry and the vehicles. Focus the rockets on the infantry. Scout the with TGP so you have a good idea where those little buggers are before you go in hot. You need to launch from pretty far out or you won't have time to switch to guns.
Eddie Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 the CCIP reticle with pipper inside it, calculates the impact point based on constant load factor, bank angle and pitch. Thus you need to be very trimmed and on one speed using airbrakes on final. A superb article can be found about CCIP bombing in SimHQ by Andy Bush. Also, take into account gravity drop. So, ultimately, aim high, miss low. IFFCC ballistic calculations are based on much more than just the factors you list, you do not need to make any adjustments for "gravity drop" at all. You do not need to be trimmed at all, what you need is a stable attitude during the tracking phase of the delivery. The most common mistake people make is trying to force the pipper onto the target my moving the aircraft rather than allowing the pipper to track onto the target naturally. While the articles on SimHQ are reasonably good and useful for people wanting to gain a basic understanding of Air-Ground weapon employment, especially for those starting from scratch, they are very basic (as you'd expect being written over a decade ago for LOMAC and similar) and leave a lot of stuff out. As far a speed brakes go, no, just no.
Skall Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 One of my first threads (if not my first) in this forum was expressing my disappointment of how ineffective rockets appear to be. I have yet to encounter a scenario where rockets were the clear choice. I get much more out of a dive with a nice gun strafe or concentrated PAC burst. And if I'm gonna go CCRP and/or loft, good ol' Mk-82s get the job done better than any rocket. Since I'm pretty new at this, I'm going to keep assuming I'm not using them properly or under the right context. But no one has yet to clarify when rockets are the answer.
0utLAW Posted November 30, 2012 Author Posted November 30, 2012 WELL I FINALLY DID IT! I finish my first instant action mission(sort of). I didn't RTB and land. But WHATEVER! I was able to take out all enemies(sort of). I had my wingman help out cleaning up the scraps. I'm going to give it some more tries until I can take out every enemy and land. i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
AtaliaA1 Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 WELL I FINALLY DID IT! I finish my first instant action mission(sort of). I didn't RTB and land. But WHATEVER! I was able to take out all enemies(sort of). I had my wingman help out cleaning up the scraps. I'm going to give it some more tries until I can take out every enemy and land. There is a sense of accomplishment to this Sim, isn't it? You read the maual and at first think whoe, this is way to technical to be just a "Game". Then you think wow just like the real thing. Fire that first Sam at a Tank and I was hooked. Drop JDAMs accuratley is awsome too. gotta love the Kid in all of us. My wife just shakes her head at my inthusiasm for this Great Sim, My son who is 6yrs. can accurately pull off a Maverick run. My wife shakes her head and says "Like Father Like Son". This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
0utLAW Posted November 30, 2012 Author Posted November 30, 2012 ^Nice! Well a couple of more runs and I'm really getting the hang of the rockets for taking out the way point 2 Patrol. It's does come down to speed and lining up the targets so that they are in a row. Oh and just downloaded and installed Tacview....... OMG! What a better sense of the battle. Getting to actually see the effective range of AA(red bubbles). WOW SO MUCH FUN! Ok now to just raise some funds for a TM HOTAS! ;) i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
AtaliaA1 Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 ^Nice! Well a couple of more runs and I'm really getting the hang of the rockets for taking out the way point 2 Patrol. It's does come down to speed and lining up the targets so that they are in a row. Oh and just downloaded and installed Tacview....... OMG! What a better sense of the battle. Getting to actually see the effective range of AA(red bubbles). WOW SO MUCH FUN! Ok now to just raise some funds for a TM HOTAS! ;) Yes that TM HOTAS is pretty nice. The price for that thing is way overboard to me for a game. And I have the money just can't seem to put that much on the counter for a joystick. I use the Saitek X52 with Tracker IR. the view hat is used for TMS. so I am fine with that. This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
AtaliaA1 Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) _..._ Edited December 2, 2012 by AtaliaA1 Double post Error This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
Skall Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 I think the TH HOTAS Warthog is well worth the price of admission. Ever since I purchased mine, I've never looked back. I use it for all my games, not just DCS. If it ever broke down on me and I couldn't get it repaired I would happily shell out the money for it again. The quality and handling is superb. I really wish TM will continue making new sticks and accessories at that level of quality.
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