Manuel Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Hey guys, just a quick problem, which I am trying to solve. If cluster bombs are dropped in FC3 my fps goes down to 5. And I can not understand how that is possibile with my system specs (see below). I have medium specs and one single monitor running on 1920 x 1080 Cheers PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
G-Lock91 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Try going here C:\DCS World\Bazar\Effects\expl\boom1.lua. Look for the line..NumParticles. I have changed that number from 400 to 100 and I've seen good results. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can certainly make something out of you" -Muhammad Ali WIN 7 64-bit SP1 | AMD Phenom II X4 955 | 8.0 GB RAM | NVidia GeForce GTX 550Ti | CH Pro Throttle | CH Fighterstick | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR5
MagnumHB Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Well known issue. See: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=94724
AtaliaA1 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Have you considered installing an SSD in that machine? That is a known issue, search the Forum there are lots of responses to it. This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
AtaliaA1 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Try going here C:\DCS World\Bazar\Effects\expl\boom1.lua. Look for the line..NumParticles. I have changed that number from 400 to 100 and I've seen good results. Did that change the visual quality at all? This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
G-Lock91 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Did that change the visual quality at all? Not really. The explosions obviously don't look quite as nice but they are still great to look at. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can certainly make something out of you" -Muhammad Ali WIN 7 64-bit SP1 | AMD Phenom II X4 955 | 8.0 GB RAM | NVidia GeForce GTX 550Ti | CH Pro Throttle | CH Fighterstick | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR5
Manuel Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 Not really. The explosions obviously don't look quite as nice but they are still great to look at. Did that... with good results. But still get a drop to 12 fps. I think there is something wrong. I mean with my system I should geht 30fps shouldnt I? By the way: Samsung 830 SSD is installed and is used. So that can not be the matter. PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
Manuel Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 Hey guys, I will post the track here where I drop the bombs. I get around 10fps when watching the explosion with F6. By the way: When taking off I experience some drag. I know there are 11 m/s wind but that has nothing to do with wind anymore. I posted this issue in a separate thread, which I will link down below. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98647 Thanks for your helpDrag + Cluster.trk PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
G-Lock91 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Did that... with good results. But still get a drop to 12 fps. I think there is something wrong. I mean with my system I should geht 30fps shouldnt I? By the way: Samsung 830 SSD is installed and is used. So that can not be the matter. I usually hover around 35-40. My system is similar to the one you have. You may want to drop that # even lower and experiment with it. Have you changed your curve or axis settings at all? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can certainly make something out of you" -Muhammad Ali WIN 7 64-bit SP1 | AMD Phenom II X4 955 | 8.0 GB RAM | NVidia GeForce GTX 550Ti | CH Pro Throttle | CH Fighterstick | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR5
Manuel Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 Have you changed your curve or axis settings at all? Yes I did a few things on axis. Track IR5 included but seriously... is it so much demanding that a gtx 570 can not render it intime? PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
G-Lock91 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Yes I did a few things on axis. Track IR5 included but seriously... is it so much demanding that a gtx 570 can not render it intime? It should, no problem. I run a 550 Ti, and your 570 is better than that. The memory, pixel, and texel rate is better. I'll dig around some more. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can certainly make something out of you" -Muhammad Ali WIN 7 64-bit SP1 | AMD Phenom II X4 955 | 8.0 GB RAM | NVidia GeForce GTX 550Ti | CH Pro Throttle | CH Fighterstick | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR5
G-Lock91 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Dumb question, but are you running anything in the background? Fraps, Bandicam, etc? Edited December 11, 2012 by G-Lock91 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can certainly make something out of you" -Muhammad Ali WIN 7 64-bit SP1 | AMD Phenom II X4 955 | 8.0 GB RAM | NVidia GeForce GTX 550Ti | CH Pro Throttle | CH Fighterstick | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR5
Manuel Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 Dumb question, but are you running anything in the background. Fraps, Bandicam, etc? nope; Teamspeak in multiplayer but not on that mission i posted PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
G-Lock91 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) What version of A10 are you running? Reading around, it looks like 1.0.0.9 has given people the best FPS. Here are some suggestions from other users. Hopefully they can help with your FPS problem. Keep in mind that DCS world is intended for 64bit OS, 32bit OS gives memory problems. - Deinstall and Reinstall this C++ 2010 X32 and X64 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=14632 - Run this DirectX installer http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=8109 - Windows updated - Drivers fresh and new, reinstallation of drivers when updates from manufacturers take some time - Clear files in C:/Users/<windows username>/Saved Games/DCS/Logs - Clear files in C:/Users/<windows username>/Saved Games/DCS/Tracks/Multiplayer - Clear files in C:/Users/<windows username>/Appdata/Local/temp (skip files in use) - Clear files in C:/Windows/Temp - Clear files in C:/Windows/Prefetch - Run Windows Diskcleanup, optionaly clear shadowcopys under advanced - Run diskchecks on all your harddrives - Turn off scedualed Defragmentation and do that manualy when needed - Run defragmentation - Turn off Windows update and do that manualy when needed - Turn off System Restore - Turn off Allow remote assistance - Turn off antivirus - Unplug any hardware that isnt needed for DCS play or in case of problems unplug everything but one mouse and 1 keyboard - Restart computer - End processes manualy that arent needed in the Windows Taskmanager (ctrl-alt-del) - Run DCS through the shortcuts in the START -> Programs -> Eagle Dynamics, start with single play in through the missioneditor first. Before you start a mission, SAVE it first. - When problems stay, concider a new DCS download and installation I'd make sure your drivers are all up-to-date as well. Edited December 11, 2012 by G-Lock91 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can certainly make something out of you" -Muhammad Ali WIN 7 64-bit SP1 | AMD Phenom II X4 955 | 8.0 GB RAM | NVidia GeForce GTX 550Ti | CH Pro Throttle | CH Fighterstick | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR5
Manuel Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 What version of A10 are you running? Reading around, it looks like 1.0.0.9 has given people the best FPS. Here are some suggestions from other users. Hopefully they can help with your FPS problem. I'd make sure your drivers are all up-to-date as well. Okay, I will do those steps and then make another test. I run DCS World with 1.2.2 PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
Manuel Posted December 12, 2012 Author Posted December 12, 2012 Everything done with no sucess. The fps is on 50-60 but if it comes to cluster bombs, there is a drop to 7 when watched. What did they do wrong. Is it so hard to render those effects? I have seen more complex ones less demanding on hardware. PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
almonds Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Everything done with no sucess. The fps is on 50-60 but if it comes to cluster bombs, there is a drop to 7 when watched. What did they do wrong. Is it so hard to render those effects? I have seen more complex ones less demanding on hardware. It's been like that for a while. "The art of simulation design is about understanding limited fidelity... ...compromises must be made. Designers have to consider cost vs. fidelity and processor time vs. fidelity. Additional trade-offs must be made between graphics, AI, flight models, number of units and more... ...never ask the pilot what he wants to learn because he too will end up building an airplane. Instead, ask the pilot what he needs to learn." -Gilman "Chopstick" Louie
Manuel Posted December 12, 2012 Author Posted December 12, 2012 So it is not a fault of my configuration but ED's duty to fix it maybe in FC3 gold? PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
G-Lock91 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 ^ Seems like that is the overwhelming majority around here... we just have to wait and hope. :mad: Sorry that none of that helped! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can certainly make something out of you" -Muhammad Ali WIN 7 64-bit SP1 | AMD Phenom II X4 955 | 8.0 GB RAM | NVidia GeForce GTX 550Ti | CH Pro Throttle | CH Fighterstick | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR5
AtaliaA1 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Is there a difference in the video mem of your cards? You and G-Lock91? This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
Manuel Posted December 13, 2012 Author Posted December 13, 2012 Is there a difference in the video mem of your cards? You and G-Lock91? GTX570 (my one) is 1280mb GTX550Ti is 1024 i suppose. PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
GriffonBR Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Same kind of FPS drop here. One more for the club.:P i5 2500k@4.3ghz + GTX 670 Windforce 3X + 8Gb Corsair + SSD Sandisk Extreme 120Gb (OS Only) 50+60 FPS.When the clusters or other bombs explode it´s a slide show for me too. Intel 8700K@4.7ghz(all cores) / 32Gb DDR4 /WD Black SN750 Heatsink 500gb (DCS Only) / MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G / Windows 10 PRO / VPC WarBRD Base + Warthog Stick + Foxx Mount / Thrustmaster TPR pedals / Thustmaster MFD / Thrustmaster Warthog throttle + Monstertech chair mount
Manuel Posted December 14, 2012 Author Posted December 14, 2012 Well this must be fail in the software... looking at a G670 which is top of the notch or how you say. PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
Leonski Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I have the same thing and I am using the Sapphire Radeon HD6870. McDonnell Douglas ✮ F-15C Eagle ✮ // USAF 2012 // Raytheon Trophy HD
DoctorStrop Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Oddly I have an antique pair of 275 gtx in SLI mode, which are far behind your cards and I was getting no drop in frame rate for cluster bombs. I often F6 to watch these go in. Some of my settings are reduced to allow my legacy pair to cope, so possibly your issue could be in one of those settings. Let me know if you want me to post the settings. Windows 10 64bit, Intel i7 6700K, 32GB Corsair 2400Mhz, 970 NVMe 500Gb SSD, GeForce 2080 super, HP Reverb, VKB GF PRO, Thrustmaster Warthog throttle, Thrustmaster Pendular rudders, Windows + DCS :thumbup: My youtube channel
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