Are Mav-Ds ineffective against armor?

[Bahger]

I was surprised to see my Maverick-D hit a Shilka and not kill it. I'm sure they used to work against armor but I've been away a while and weapon/armor values might have been tweaked. What's the best Maverick to carry against armor? Thanks.

[ralfidude]

must have been a glitch or bug. They kill. Or it missed by inches.

 

Mavs have a 70-80% chance of hitting in real life, in the Sim its more like 99%.

 

PS: K is the biggest warhead.

If you have 6 AGM-65Ds they would weigh LESS than only 2 AGM-65Ks

[Bahger]

That's what I thought. But I was surprised either to miss or not to kill with about 60% of my Mav shots in two playthroughs of a mission I'm making. It's not user error; I'm very experienced in all the switchology and have been effective with Mavs since the Beta. I wonder if it's the terrain; can intervening urban terrain, bridges, structures, etc., break the lock and make the missile go dumb?

[Eddie]

PS: K is the biggest warhead.

If you have 6 AGM-65Ds they would weigh LESS than only 2 AGM-65Ks

 

Huh?!

 

Not sure where you're getting that from. The 65D/H is 465lb and the G/K 675lb, 6 AGM-65D/H weigh considerably more than 2 G/K and also produce significantly more drag.

 

As for the best to use against armour, any of them, the Mav is designed for armour. The larger warheads can just be used against other targets as well. As there are no differences in seekers (apart from force correlate) between models in DCS other factors don't matter.

Edited February 1, 2013 by Eddie

[ralfidude]

I swear someone posted a chart with weight information and I compared what 6 D vs 2 Ks was, and the difference (as per that persons "official looking" chart) was immense.

 

Pardon the bad info then.

[Wayc00lio]

I generally always use D's and have only ever missed a definite kill on a very small number of occasions. They usually do it for me!!

[luza]

I swear someone posted a chart with weight information and I compared what 6 D vs 2 Ks was, and the difference (as per that persons "official looking" chart) was immense.

 

Pardon the bad info then.

 

Take into the account of the 3 mavs, and also keep in mind to hold 3 mavs on each Pylon you need to fit a TER (Which is extremely draggy) - Weight isn't everything. :pilotfly:

[MaceUK]

I've had one just miss a tank now.

 

What do you mean it was user error? How rude! :D

[HugePanic]

MMaybe this is just the DCS version of the "mav go mad" behavior. It seems to be an well known problem in the real life....

[MaceUK]

Lol, I think they have that saved up for April 1st :D

[KLR Rico]

I've seen them miss a handful of times. Not sure if I was well past the 30 minute EO limit, or too far outside the "keyhole", but they do miss from time to time. I'd actually prefer it if they had a more realistic Pk and launch parameter requirements. The more realistic the better, I say.

[Bahger]

My Mav marvelousness was restored in further play-throughs of the mission last night. Not quite sure why there was a brief phase when I couldn't hit a barn door with a golf club from three feet.

 

From the very beginning, Wags has warned us that Mavs would not be a "magic bullet" in this sim but programming failure probability must be a very tricky business.

[Katalepsis]

Oftentimes Mavs will not connect when power lines or towers are in the LOS (line of sight). Trust me many times Mav targets are discreetly tucked behind a power line tower and the Mav explodes on contact (and rightfully so).