Taproot Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Hey guys. I have two problems with my g940 I hope you can help me sort out before I am as happy as I can get. Problem 1: When I press in left toe break it starts going crasy at around 50% pressdown. In the rawdata it the slidermarker jumps up and down. It stops doing this at around 75%. Problem 2: I use R2 axis on right throttle to zoom. Whenever I gas down it effects the R2 axis and I start zooming in and out, before it again stabalise when I am done throttling. I cleared calibration and recalibratet. I have checked for conflicts. Any ideas? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ebs Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Sounds like worn pots :( How long have you had the G940? 1 Check out my guide to JSGME for DCS World.
Taproot Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Sounds like worn pots :( How long have you had the G940? I bought it preowned. It should not be that old.. Cant remember tho.. Nothing I can do? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Seil Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Taproot, Welcome to the last couple years of my G940 experience...... It's only going to get more insane! POT issues for certain. Remember this: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1681851 ? I was using R2, then R1, then Pitch Trim (on the stick base) and other trims, before removing zoom altogether..... single WORST issue to deal with imho, zoom was always going crazy. Sadly, I believe your G940 is on the way DOWN the hill now :( P.S. Biggest difference between WH and G940..... I've been running pure-linear, no curves at all on the WH Hotas and it is heaven! .... oh and the WH actually works :p -Seil -Seil WotG Founder & A10C Lead
Taproot Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Sadly, I believe your G940 is on the way DOWN the hill now :( How fast? Thanks for the help. I need to find another zoom axis then.. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Seil Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I would say it really depends on how you're using the system.... The rougher you are, the faster it will go.... Rudder pedals, unless you deadzone, curve, saturate and filter ended up only really providing me with taxi capabilities and will end up sending bad values to the sim even though they are at the 0 point... Basically means you're flying with slight rudder constantly applied or spiking a bit like that zoom does.... acts like flying with a crosswind even though there isn't any.... Any adjustments you make to filter the spiking, should be conducted while looking at the live output readings from each axis... so you can tell where it needs work and how much... I try to use as little compensation as possible - its still tough to alleviate though. From the time I started getting spiking in the R2 for zoom until my internal wiring was bad enough to make all my throttle controls go haywire was probably less than 200 hours of flight time..... I can't really be any more certain or specific on this number as I wasn't keeping flight log data for my controls (although I should have). There are some guides on how to repair the wiring in there..... but that wont fix the pot issues.... The REAL problem with the pots, are that they are COMPLETELY made from plastic, and very very small... You have very little room to work with for repairs. I also disconnected the wiring connectors on the pots, completely disabling them. However, with the short in the throttle wiring, it was STILL sending input updates for the disconnected axis'. And I couldn't be certain that it was specifically a wiring short issue (just my best guess)... If I was going to repair anything, the controllers were going to get replaced without a doubt. (Fix that damn reversal bug) I have some TINY magnets and hall sensors, I can get them to fit, but all of that was put on hold when I decided to order the Warthogs... I've gone from spending 60% of my time messing with controls and options and testing, and starting / quitting the game with the G940 to 99% of my time flying with an ear-to-ear smile on my face with the Warthogs.... I liked the G940 so much I really didn't want to abandon it, however, it seems as though Logitech threw in the towel on it awhile ago and left the end-users holding the bag (of crap)... Hope this helps, or informs I guess :-\ Let me know if there's anything else I can do ;) -Seil -Seil WotG Founder & A10C Lead
Taproot Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Thanks Seil. I poked you on TS, but you have replied here. :) 200 hours seem perfect. If I am still flying then it will justify getting the hog. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Swaty Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I was about to post about this MOD http://www.lca.ympsa.com/g940mod.html but I think it won't help you!:joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Pit
Seil Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Yes, that's one I've dug through as well..... It WOULD fix the issue if you replaced the pots as well...... Unfortunately, if you look at this specific picture: http://www.lca.ympsa.com/joystick/612.jpg you can see that both of the pots used for the throttles are of the same type throughout the rest of the controller, cheap plastic/plastic parts. I also have a logic issue with replacing failing pots with more pots that will eventually fail, which means you're stuck programming a controller for the halls to work... :-\ -Seil -Seil WotG Founder & A10C Lead
Ebs Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 TapRoot, that's a shame man. This isn't aimed at you specifically btw, as you got it preowned and saved some cash in the process...BUT... Everywhere I only see posts from G940 owners complaining about how crap it is...Worn pots, Hysteresis debacle etc. etc. The Warthog gets some flak for how expensive it is...but the POS G940 almost costs the same...There's post after post of problems regarding this stick and people STILL buy it...it amazes me... It's like people want to convince themselves that all these problems won't happen with their G940...It's a turd and Logitech should be ashamed for releasing it. I read somewhere that it was just supposed to be a FFB stick on it's own...but then they decided include the throttle and pedals to justify the price...this means the throttle and pedals were made with the absolute cheapest components they could find...and no doubt the stick components also suffered as a result. I've yet to see a single post where a G940 owner has said 'this is the best HOTAS I've ever owned' now compare that to all the TM Warhog 'gushing' posts. There's more chance of Fighter Ops being released than me using a G940. It's shocking. Rant over, sorry. Check out my guide to JSGME for DCS World.
Swaty Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 It's comes with pedals so finally is cheaper. I have tested myself a few year before and I find it good, but I have for few days only. http://www.hotas.gr/content/view/68/1/lang,el/ I know! It's greek to you! :music_whistling: Here are some pics from joytester and some videos using G940 http://www.hotas.gr/content/view/68/1/1/6/lang,el/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Pit
Seil Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 I know Ebs, when I started opening them up and checking them out for myself... it just pissed me off really. I ordered the TM WH Hotas within 24 hours of that... Lost a lot of trust and loyalty in that deal from many people -Seil -Seil WotG Founder & A10C Lead
Taproot Posted March 3, 2013 Author Posted March 3, 2013 I've yet to see a single post where a G940 owner has said 'this is the best HOTAS I've ever owned' now compare that to all the TM Warhog 'gushing' posts.. Truth be told I am quite happy with mine. :) Now I just have to use it till it wears out so I can invest in the hog. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Seil Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 Well, in all fairness, Taproot hasn't had the opportunity to try the hogs, and likewise, I felt the same way until they really went to shit and I opened them up and then bought the hogs myself :p -Seil -Seil WotG Founder & A10C Lead
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