chromium Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 Hi, I would like to report something that it's more an issue that a real bug: when you create any kind of new route for air units (either helicopter or airplanes) it use this settings: alert green , 432 km/h and 2000 mt. And those are pretty impossibile for helos (expecially the speed). But also, and worse, anytime your helos or airframes change waypoints, they always modify route settings for "alert - GREEN", 432 km/h and 2000 mt. That makes impossible to setup a flight and forget about it for some waypoints. Is it possible that: 1. they keep steerpoint settings while routing between successive waypoints; 2. they keep actual steerpoint settings when you create a new route; Thanks in advance, Lorenzotest waypoint route settings.trk Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
chromium Posted March 5, 2013 Author Posted March 5, 2013 uhm... while I'm pretty confident that with 76 views at least one of the tester has seen this, I'm thinking to open a support ticket to make this "officially" part of the debug process... or it's unuseful? or... maybe I'm the only one with this issue... and it's not a bug but simply something related to my system/install... anyone that confirm that manually entered flight plan for aircraft or helo have the same behaviors? Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 5, 2013 ED Team Posted March 5, 2013 uhm... while I'm pretty confident that with 76 views at least one of the tester has seen this, I'm thinking to open a support ticket to make this "officially" part of the debug process... or it's unuseful? or... maybe I'm the only one with this issue... and it's not a bug but simply something related to my system/install... anyone that confirm that manually entered flight plan for aircraft or helo have the same behaviors? If no one gets back to you be the time I get home to my puter I will try to reproduce. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
chromium Posted March 5, 2013 Author Posted March 5, 2013 thanks :D Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 6, 2013 ED Team Posted March 6, 2013 Ok, checked it out in the newest versions I have available to me, anytime you touch the sliders it seems to jump to those default values, I submitted it as a bugs, thanks!! Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
chromium Posted March 6, 2013 Author Posted March 6, 2013 thanks to you for checking and reporting the issue :). Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 6, 2013 ED Team Posted March 6, 2013 thanks to you for checking and reporting the issue :). You bet, I also noted that the original waypoints dont show up when you first click on an air unit like it does with a ground unit, would be nice to see the original waypoints/path. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
chromium Posted March 6, 2013 Author Posted March 6, 2013 In my test those flight hasn't any waypoint, cause they are intendet to be parked and used at discretion of the Ground Commander / AWACS role, so I didn't notice that. Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 6, 2013 ED Team Posted March 6, 2013 In my test those flight hasn't any waypoint, cause they are intendet to be parked and used at discretion of the Ground Commander / AWACS role, so I didn't notice that. Yeah, I noticed after I made my own test mission with a number of different unit types, the ground ones showed the original path, the air units didnt. I dont know if this is by design or just an oversight, so I pointed it out as well. All unit types had the jump in speed (obviously ground units dont have an altitude setting). Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
chromium Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 I'm asking for an update: is it known if this bug and, most important, the multiplayer client unable to control AI flight bug are going to be solved in 1.2.4? thanks in advance for the answer, if possible. Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 25, 2013 ED Team Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) I'm asking for an update: is it known if this bug and, most important, the multiplayer client unable to control AI flight bug are going to be solved in 1.2.4? thanks in advance for the answer, if possible. No idea at this point, but the issue I reported from this thread is assigned to be worked on, that's all I can say at this point. I'll look later and see if the multiplayer issue still exists in tester versions of the sim and if so I will report it if it hasn't been already. Edited March 25, 2013 by NineLine Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
chromium Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 Thanks for the fast and complete answer :) I'll wait till next release :) Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 26, 2013 ED Team Posted March 26, 2013 It was confirmed to me that flights should be controllable by clients in multiplayer so its a bug or something not implemented yet, its a WIP, so not sure when full functionality will be ready. I did also raise concerns about all clients being able to edit flights... I feel it should be able to be limited to one certain role (ie only ground commander can edit flights)... the chaos that would ensue if everyone could edit that one flight could be an issue :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
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