Darkphox Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Hi all, Since downloading the latest patch, I've been having a problem. The game loads up (multiplayer server) but it seems like it no longer starts as the active window. I use SoftTH to push my MFCDs to two Lilliput USB monitors. As you may know, SoftTH adds some nice features but removes some functionality like being able to Alt-Tab from the game. When DCS gets loaded and it's not the active window, I see the game just like normal but my mouse clicks on whatever is "behind" that visual. This leaves me able to do as much as my joystick will let me, but I cant click any switches or even exit the game. I can only click what's hidden behind the game's visual. I have to ctrl+alt+del and logoff or restart because I can't click Exit. My mouse just clicks on whatever window is behind the exit button. Has anyone else had this issue, or know how to get DCS back to being the active window on startup? EVGA X-58 SLI3 w/ I7 920@ 4.2ghz | Corsair 1000HX | 180gb Intel SSD330 | 12gb OCZ @ 1600mhz | R9 290 3120x1200 (1920 + MFCDs on 2x lilliput UM-80s) Bits: TM Warthog, TM OSBs, Saitek rudder pedals, Logitech G-15 & G-13, Mionix Naos 5k, TrackIR5 w/ proclip, Corsair HS1A
Brisse Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Well known problem. Hopefully it will be patched. I don't know any workaround except alt+tab and ctrl+alt+delete.
_Dredd Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Running SoftTH you should be able to Appkey + S to be able to successfully quit. Mo problems here at all with latest builds; though I don't use USB monitors. Current Flight Rig i7 4960X @ 4.6Ghz ASUS Rampage IV Formula G.SKILL TridentX 2400Mhz 32GB DDR3 Crucial 1TB MX300 SSD MSI Gaming X 1080Ti Samsung 55" JS8000 SUHD 4K Windows 10 x64 TrackIR 5, Warthog HOTAS Saitek Pro Flight Combat Pedals Custom Akers-Barnes, MkI eyeball.
LNR212 Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 oooh thanks god, i'm not the only one having this problem since 1.2.5... hopefully it gets fixed with 1.2.6!
LNR212 Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 I'm faaar away from my pc now, is the problem solved with 1.2.6???? Please say yes!!!
LNR212 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) Well, it was not solved with 1.2.6, BUT i now use this d3d9.rar and it works again :thumbup: edit: ...NOT :mad: Edited September 5, 2013 by LNR212
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 So replacing a Windows Direct X File fixes it for you, Doesnt that kinda make you wonder if it was a Windows Problem? There are 3 Hotfixes that cause Problems in Games. 1 of them DirectX Updates, I'd look at those too. KB 2670838 DirectX Platform Update (Also Included in IE 10). Modifies: Direct2D DirectWrite Direct3D Windows Imaging Component (WIC) Windows Advanced Rasterization Platform (WARP) Windows Animation Manager (WAM) XPS Document API H.264 Video Decoder JPEG XR codec Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
LNR212 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 hey ho... well, disregard... maybe it was just a lucky shot or i dont know... same problem as before. sometimes SP works but not in MP... you think its a directX problem? i'm not a genius at pc-things... do you have an idea what could solve my problem?
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 if replacing DX files fixed it, then yeah. Most of the time is a Program that doesnt wanna let go running in the background. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
LNR212 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Well... It didnt fix it :( And its only on my mainmonitor in the middle. Monitor left and right are clickable (in-cockpit switches) Hmm... :huh:
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Well... It didnt fix it :( And its only on my mainmonitor in the middle. Monitor left and right are clickable (in-cockpit switches) Hmm... :huh: You running Eyefinity or Extended Displays? Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
LNR212 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 I have 3 x 27" in PLP. This problem is since first update to 1.2.5. Win 7 x64, AMD 7970 black ed. Windows and DCS are absolutely fresh installed...
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) I assume then your running extended screen setup and not Eyefinity then with PLP. Are you using SoftTH? try making a Separate Theme for Windows with Aero Disabled. With Aero Enabled, any SysTray Icon with certain types of Animations can trigger the explorer GUI to become the Active Window. I had this issue on and off since 1.2.5 as well, I Move the mouse across all 3 screens fine, but at soon as I click the first switch, Im minimized back to the desktop, and have to bring DCS Window back up and resume. The issue was present more after Buying Combined Arms (simply cuz I had to click the map more). But it goes away for periods at a time, Which leads me to believe it's background software I'm running, and Aero, Also sometimes when I switch Catalyst Profiles from Single or 2 Screens to 3 Screens Eyefinity or Extended, Windows switches off the Aero Interface and some times it doesnt. When it does, I usually just Boot DCS or whatever anyway, as once I finish playing I switch back to a different Screen Profile. Edited September 5, 2013 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
LNR212 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 yeah, extended desktops, because plp is not possible with eyefinity. but i also use softth and therefore i need aero on.
LNR212 Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 For now I have a dirty solution. I make my win-taskbar movable, before starting the game, I put it on one of my sidemonitors, in game I must move it across my mainscreen and then I put it on my helios-monitor. Then it works... After gaming I put taskbar back to mainscreen. Thats it. Not Happy with it, but works so far...
Scooternutz Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 For now I have a dirty solution. I make my win-taskbar movable, before starting the game, I put it on one of my sidemonitors, in game I must move it across my mainscreen and then I put it on my helios-monitor. Then it works... After gaming I put taskbar back to mainscreen. Thats it. Not Happy with it, but works so far... Will try that. Mine situation is weird. First off I am using Matrox TH2G (5040x1050) with a Nvidia GTX-670, Win-7 Pro. No issues with single player UI. Sometimes when I select multiplayer the screen is slid to the right and down and I have no access to the exit button, join, etc. I have to CTRL-ALT-DEL to close it down. Other times it is dead center and no issues. Don't have clue as why it does this but hoping for a fix soon. [sIGPIC]https://drive.google.com/file/d/16rUBmmJR7A3YGZVGPGskxG1XtvulGojJ/view?usp=sharing[/sIGPIC]
Darkphox Posted September 7, 2013 Author Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) Hey guys, sorry for the delay...I've been busy at work so I haven't had a chance to provide an update to my original post until now. I updated to 1.2.6 last night and everything is working perfectly again! I didn't do anything except move the files in the "backup.00x" folder back into their appropriate folders. No more ghost window that prevents me from clicking within DCS. I see that some folks are still having issues. I am all too familiar with the feeling that comes with "it's always something"...I wish you the best of luck in finding a solution. Edited September 7, 2013 by Darkphox EVGA X-58 SLI3 w/ I7 920@ 4.2ghz | Corsair 1000HX | 180gb Intel SSD330 | 12gb OCZ @ 1600mhz | R9 290 3120x1200 (1920 + MFCDs on 2x lilliput UM-80s) Bits: TM Warthog, TM OSBs, Saitek rudder pedals, Logitech G-15 & G-13, Mionix Naos 5k, TrackIR5 w/ proclip, Corsair HS1A
LNR212 Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 ...my dirty solution from two posts above wasn't dirty enough and failed sometimes... now i have a much more dirtier solution which works just perfect: before starting the game i start the taskmanager. the window from the taskmanager should be on a monitor which is not actually used by the game, in my case the helios-monitor. then i start the game. when im in, i right-click on the active DCS process-> "minimize" and then "maximize". then i can close the taskmanager and everything works fine. SP and MP. its just like Alt+Tab. But this trick is also possible with SoftTH!! ...yayyy :thumbup:
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