Vedexent Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 Has anyone ever seen one of these? And yes - I know we don't really have any.
VapoR Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 Something like this Su-25SM paint job with Canadian roundels would look cool:
Vedexent Posted November 10, 2013 Author Posted November 10, 2013 Something like this Su-25SM paint job with Canadian roundels would look cool: Agreed - although I'd like a white belly of the plane, with a darker red body, and white tail tip, as the colors - and the roundels of course. Man ... now I need to learn how to edit skins, don't I? ;)
Mechanist Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 Does canada have some kind of ground attack camo from post war, like on F-5s or something? Or even attack heli pattern? "Fighters make movies, bombers make history."
Vedexent Posted November 11, 2013 Author Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) Does canada have some kind of ground attack camo from post war, like on F-5s or something? Or even attack heli pattern? An excellent question! The big problem is that between WWII and the 1990s the RCAF has been mostly for search and rescue, border patrol, nuclear bomber interception as part of North American cold war defense/NATO (the CF-104 program). The CF-118s have been active in NATO/UN operations, since the 90s, however: Desert Shield, Operation Allied Force, the Afghanistan War, and Operation Unified Protector in Libya. To the best of my knowledge we don't really have an active modern ground assault role aircraft since the CF-5 was retired. I was able to find the BAE Hawk trainer livery, which I think is very cool (and not so garish as red and white :D ) The CF-188A (Canadian deployment of the American F-18 ) seems to come a couple of liveries - with the last seeming to be an airshow variant. Here's a livery for the Avro Arrow Here's some for the CL-13 Sabre And a couple for the CF-104 Starfighter. Edited November 11, 2013 by Vedexent
VapoR Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 That Hawk is beautiful! The Su-25 would look great in that skin. I really like that airshow variant of the CF-18. And the very least one would be a good look on an Su-25..
Vedexent Posted November 11, 2013 Author Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) Can't believe I forgot the CF-5 Freedom Fighter ... especially since Mechanist asked about the F-5. I think the first and last would be adaptable to the Su-25. Edited November 11, 2013 by Vedexent
Vedexent Posted November 11, 2013 Author Posted November 11, 2013 And the CH-146 Griffon light attack helo Search and Rescue Variant - there is a DCS World Huey skin like this.
Mechanist Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) Can't believe I forgot the CF-5 Freedom Fighter ... especially since Mechanist asked about the F-5. I think the first and last would be adaptable to the Su-25. I think I can give this one a shot, I used to make quite a few Su-25A skins a year or two ago, not to mention the template for the old model with cooperation of Star80. You can check out Jack's and mine earlier works here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=54865 Also I need some things: - Color definition for grey, green, and sky colors. - Squardon logos who used this F-5 pattern or the grey-green F-104, decal, possible nosearts, and more photos possibly form all sides of these F-5s of grey-green F-104. - The tiny text decals will remain russian at first, if someone could help translate them to english that would be appriciated. Edited November 12, 2013 by Mechanist "Fighters make movies, bombers make history."
Vedexent Posted November 12, 2013 Author Posted November 12, 2013 I think I can give this one a shot, I used to make quite a few Su-25A skins a year or two ago, not to mention the template for the old model with cooperation of Star80. You can check out Jack's and mine earlier works here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=54865 Also I need some things: - Color definition for grey, green, and sky colors. - Squardon logos who used this F-5 pattern or the grey-green F-104, decal, possible nosearts, and more photos possibly form all sides of these F-5s of grey-green F-104. - The tiny text decals will remain russian at first, if someone could help translate them to english that would be appriciated. Wow - that's a very generous offer to at least try. I'm familiar with your skin work, I've got some of it installed on my Su-25s - especially the historical Russian skins. :) ---- Basing everything off the CF-5, there were three main squadrons that used that aircraft 433rd Tactical Fighter Squadron (porcupines) 434th Operational Squadron (bluenose) 419th Tactical Fighter Training Squadron (moose) Squadron patches were as follows: CF-5 Liveries appear to have been like this: Actualy "field aircraft are as follows" Bluenose Moose Porcupine?
Vedexent Posted November 12, 2013 Author Posted November 12, 2013 I also pulled images of some RCAF modelling decal sheets that might be helpful with signage ------- With all this in mind, I think there are three basic livery strategies here. Green/Gray cammo Multi-shade "ghost" low contract cammo Blue-on-blue "naval" cammo To that end, I've taken a stab at pulling some color pallets from the diagrams. 2-color green and grey (front line green) RGB: 68,87,59 - #44573B RGB: 95,99,110 - #5F636E 2-color green and grey (front line green: lighter) RGB: 68,87,59 - #44573B RGB: 165,163,164 - #A5A3A4 3-color Ghost camo (low contrast) RGB: 133,131,132 - #858384 RGB: 165,163,164 - #A5A3A4 RGB: 134,143,152 - #868F98 4-color blue and grey (naval) RGB: 47,63,97 - #2F3F61 RGB: 61,84,118 - #3D5476 RGB: 107,125,149 - #6B7D95 RGB: 144,160,175 - #90A0AF I'm not a graphic artist, by any means, so those color palletes may need some "tweaking". If I were to pick just one pallet, I'd go with the last one - maybe selecting either the top or bottom three colors in a 3-color cammo pattern. I really appreciate anything anyone does with this :)
ED Team NineLine Posted November 12, 2013 ED Team Posted November 12, 2013 Search and Rescue Variant - there is a DCS World Huey skin like this. I'm working on a 442 variant for the Huey.... slowly lol... And you gave me some ideas for the Su-25 now as well :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Regarding the Canadian air to ground capability the F-18 does that job. 20mm, GBU-12, GBU-49 and really all classes of the MK-80 series bombs with some JDAM in the inventory. There are even AGMs in the inventory but there shelf life is soon coming to an end and wont be used at all. 63 My CAS (Close air support) JTAC Channel: RIFLE - YouTube RIFLE's Discord: https://discord.gg/cmDCrr4Z2g Publications JTAC Bible (see/know chapter #5) https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_09_3.pdf J-FIRE pocket guide (Don't do battle without it!) BK2 (fas.org)
Vedexent Posted November 12, 2013 Author Posted November 12, 2013 Regarding the Canadian air to ground capability the F-18 does that job. 20mm, GBU-12, GBU-49 and really all classes of the MK-80 series bombs with some JDAM in the inventory. There are even AGMs in the inventory but there shelf life is soon coming to an end and wont be used at all. 63 True. I guess I should have said no dedicated ground assault aircraft like the Su-25. Everyone's going multirole these days - even the A10C is facing phase-out.
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