theropod Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUKTBUY1RII according to tests a-10a spins. but in fc3 a-10a,i couldnt spin like this. is there any way to perform it? Edited January 30, 2014 by theropod
kk0425 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Looks like a flat spin. I can do it with the Eagle's current FM, but never tried the A-10's. I'll later tonight with the A-10C. Got around to it quicker than I thought. Something like this?flat spin.trk Edited January 28, 2014 by kk0425 Attaching trk
theropod Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 i couldnt see spin in your track. your plane is turning left with airbrakes and flying down to landing. thank for trk
theropod Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 at first forgive me your plane dives right ,i wrote left:) i am using the 1.2.7 which has released few days ago. i have only fc3 addon.
kk0425 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Could be a bad track playback then. Anyway, what I did was bring the throttle to idle then push down and either left or right on the stick and full rudder in the same direction as the stick. Should put you in a spin no time. But just like in the video the A-10 wanted to recover pretty quick so when you release the controls it should stabilize by itself pretty quick.
theropod Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) yes dcs a-10 handles it very very quick and you can control spining both directions which you want and backward spin can be perform but can be a little deeper to recover? on video, it happens a little longer depends on conditions. Edited January 28, 2014 by theropod
kk0425 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 There could be many reasons why it doesn't recover as fast in the video. It was a testing model so maybe weight or design was tweaked before it went into production? A slightly incorrect flight model in DCS? I honestly don't know.
theropod Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) aren't they both using the same afm? as i know they are same but if its not i can say im a very sad because of this issue. how many level of flight model is ed using? i only heard SFM and AFM. which is ours? Edited January 29, 2014 by theropod
kk0425 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 A-10A is not flying like A-10C in DCS. How so? The A's AFM is the same as the C's like it should be. Same airframe, just different avionics.
theropod Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 How so? The A's AFM is the same as the C's like it should be. Same airframe, just different avionics. yes they announced like that but why are they different?
theropod Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) according to unanswered questions from ED ,my final toughts we have limited flight model not full AFM which i expect from dcs before i bought fc3. i coudn find su-25 spin tunnel tests but i tested and forced su-25 to enter spin but it doesnt enter spin to recover too. they announced AFM models when they released 1.2.5 version and lot of people bought fc3 because of this. what can we expect from su-27 and f-15 AFM? i trust ED becuse their flight models suitable according to newtonian physic laws and they are best at this issue but now i am not feeling good because this! i wish they'll add full AFM when they release DCS flaming cliffs standalone version.:( Edited January 30, 2014 by theropod
skouras Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Control dynamics feels different to me. it is different question is why same airframe same engines [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]W10(64bit)Asus Rog Strix Z370-F - i7 8700K - Dark Rock Pro 4 - 16 giga ram Corsair vengeance 3000 - MSI RTX 2070 Super - Asus Rog Phobeus soundcard - Z906 Surround speaker - Track ir5 - HOTAS Warthog
theropod Posted January 30, 2014 Author Posted January 30, 2014 it is different question is why same airframe same engines i hope to get any information from ED team.
galagamo Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Could be a bad track playback then. Nope the track was good, I clearly saw the spin demonstrated. Edit didnt see the 2nd page disregard lol [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] OS:WIN7 HP X64|MOBO:ASRock Z68|CPU:I52500k@4Ghz|RAM:12Gb 3x4Gb GSkill Ripjaws 9-9-9-24 @1600Mhz|GPU:ASUS GTX580|HDD:2x128Gb Crucial sataIII SSD raid0|PSU:Antek 1000watt|Case:Antek 1200|Peripherals: TMWH|Saitek ProFlight rudder pedals|TrackIr4
theropod Posted January 30, 2014 Author Posted January 30, 2014 Nope the track was good, I clearly saw the spin demonstrated. Edit didnt see the 2nd page disregard lol the track didnt show spin to me. that is weird. but the main problem dcs a-10c can spin but dcs fc3 a-10a can't ,even they have same AFM.
Basher54321 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Control dynamics feels different to me. Are you comparing them with the same stores configuration and fuel load - and at similar altitudes?
Pepec9124 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Are you comparing them with the same stores configuration and fuel load - and at similar altitudes? Yup, 40% fuel and no weapons.
Snoopy Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 In theory they should be the same. I'll have to do a comparison on the 1A-10A-1 and 1A-10C-1 and see if I can find any differences. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
theropod Posted January 31, 2014 Author Posted January 31, 2014 In theory they should be the same. I'll have to do a comparison on the 1A-10A-1 and 1A-10C-1 and see if I can find any differences. thank for your attention.
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted January 31, 2014 ED Team Posted January 31, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUKTBUY1RII according to tests a-10a spins. but in fc3 a-10a,i couldnt spin like this. is there any way to perform it? Because these tests can not be very precise at 1/30 scale model. Different Re, different mass-inertia charachteristics, different CG position... if it was so easy to test a small model the in-flight tests of real planes would be useless... Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted January 31, 2014 ED Team Posted January 31, 2014 A-10A is not flying like A-10C in DCS. In DCS they have the same FM. Just a copy. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
theropod Posted January 31, 2014 Author Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) In DCS they have the same FM. Just a copy. thank you for information yo-yo. those kind of videos confusing because i cant do that with fc3 a-10a. reverse spin:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS4aStuolrk also i tried with fc3 su-25 and it couldn't enter spin too. is it normal? weird thing is both aircraft can handle spining very short time despite my force to enter continuous spin. is it like this on real life? Edited January 31, 2014 by theropod
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