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Hi! Anyone have some tips for retaining the performance overlay in-game and replays? I don't seem to be able to set it up. In advance thanks!

It's a good combo, just give your CPU a good cooling, assisted with case cooling and you'll be happy ever after...

If you run a Ryzen 3/3D best bound it with the RAM that will let your CPU free of bottleneck and there is no alternative to a Cl14 kit, preferably a 4 X 1 bank kit (interleaving). Anything else and your CPU will throttle down under load, so better pay the premium for B.die than to figure it out when your PC suddenly slows down because your CPU can't handle the load. Someone mentioned the bandwidth, well that's what it's all about, your CPU controller manage all the buses, for the RAM but also the GPU, its limits are 3200 MHz/4 banks with high street RAM, 32600 with B.die (Cl14) thanks to a much more stable chips material allowing for a wider range of of timing. You can get a Corsair or GSkill kit 3200MHz and O.C it (they O.C very well) or a 3600MHz which is what I have but in any case, those CPUs won't let you go over 3600MHz, the cheaper 3200 kits will suit a lower budget and still offer the same performances but I chose not to O.C my PC in any case that's my personal choice. In short nobody is gonna force you to pay the premium for those kits but once you realize the advantages, if you broke the piggy bank to get one, you won't regret it, especially with a Ryzen3D...

My VR settings. Do NOT pay attention to the performance overlay they are from screen recording, not the actual game, and if anyone knows the settings of Afterburner to get those in game and replays you're welcome. Also keep in mind that this was a test, setting were stupidly high on purpose, smoothness and FPS can be improved, MSI support are trying to help with the PCI_E1 issue. So we have MSAA X4, Anisotropic Filtering X 16. Pixel Density 1.6 in VR, causes perhaps the average image I got with the Pico because I didn't have it this way with lower settings (1.4). Temperature never exceeded 70°C despite a rather bad case cooling setting due to the failure of PCI_E1 which forced me to use PCI_E2, the card now seat very close to the top of the Power Supply with little room under it for the fans... Not perfect, the replay looks a lot cleaner than what I had on my Pico, head movements are very chunky, and my less than 40h in the F1 shows when I couldn't figure "whats that yellow light there?", get kind of lost and then flew all the way to the parking slot with the Air Brakes on (not good). In short some fine tuning is needed but I'm getting there, as for the performances of the card, well it looks rather good but I need to get Afterburner to work for me in order to know exactly the in-game FPS, so again if someone has settings for this, you're more than welcome. Video: Now processing 4K for another 5hours... I'm too tired to wait and I just realized the sound is set for ambient with my mic picking up room noise. Will correct later. For those wondering why I fired both AAMS, it is simple: With assymetric load the F1 is a b!tch to trim... Nite nite......

Sure thing but not for the same reason... On some aircraft like the F-16 and some Sukois, in the transonic regime with an assymetric load, you just can't pull Gs because the aircraft will depart, so there is a zone where they are g-limited in those conditions. With the F1 it's another story, the spoilers always generate some amount of induced yaw but it seems that with this module the effect is way overdone, plus it doesn't carry more than a Sidewinder or Matra Magic on the wing tips with negligible drag, while the USAF did find funny to fit an AIM-120 there for the pilots to sweat it when caught unaware. The aerodynamics and drag of external load in those conditions are different. As for the use of rudder at high AoA, the problem only really occurs at lower speed when you are close to a stall, then you need to use the rudder or one wing will drag more than the other, one will have less lift, stall earlier and you risk an asymmetrical departure, we actually learn that even before landing on trainers because you'll have to flare them so the problem might occur. Dynamic stall at high speed, I wouldn't use the rudder, it is speed limited, better keep the controls at neutral minus the pitch that you'll need to apply down to reduce AoA. So both modules are not really close to the real thing just yet...

Yeah right. Another one who argue with what AMD is saying of their CPU... So according to you what will be the performance enhancement offered by Zen 4 and DDR5 then? I didn't miss anything, DDR5 is FAR from offering the kind of low latency the Ryzen 3/3D were designed to use and they haven't even tested it with Zen 3 because there is no support for it, they don't beneficiate from frequencies higher than 3600 when coupled with Cl14 kits under load, at 4K that's the absolute limit of their controllers. By going out of those limits you simply create a bootleneck because the Zen3/3D controller won't take it, any amount of wishful thinking won't change this fact, so if people have a Zen 3, Cl 14 is the way to go, they might wish for the Zen 4/DDR5 to be an improvement but buck for performance I wouldn't swear it right now, that's just assumption today. And also, why do you need 64Gb of Cl14 with a 5800x3D? It's not the quantity of RAM or higher frequencies which helps, it's the number of time the CPU needs to refresh data from the RAM and with the cache this number is much lower, that's why it works perfectly with the Cl14 RAM, even 16Gb or 8 for that matter, I should know I used 8Gb to sort out my GPU issues. So at the end of the day it is about using known, tested and proven technologies or go for the next gen, pay the premiums while RAM manufacturers are still looking for a viable replacement to B.die for their RAM chips because right now, they haven't got it and have to increase frequencies only to keep their chips stable. Just a clue... Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 / 4.5 GHz cache. <> £349.00. AMD increases cache on their socket 4 or other Zen 3 but the DDR5 RAM are still way behind when it comes to latency, result? No such thing as Cl14 low latency with DDR5 systems... So I'm not sure I missed anything here... AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800X3D AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 Specs, Release Date, Benchmarks, Price Listings Nov 2022.

Right, apart for the fact that the Zen 3/3D doesn't support it you're free to do what you want. DDR5 is designed for the next generation sockets, that would be Zen4, it won't work that well with a Zen3... Check AMD web sites for both those CPU, it's not hard to figure it out. Here are my VR settings, Just did a fast run with my PICO4, image quality can be improved but FPS is smooth, I haven't managed to get Afterburner overlay in replays yet but I will, you'll be hard pressed to get the same results with a non-optimized RAM kit for a Ryzen3...

If your system is Intel-based then I can't really advise you but if you use a Ryzen 3/3D then you have to understand that their architecture is designed for lower latency, and despite the fact that their controllers limits the RAM frequency at DDR4-3200 with high street RAM (not B.die) you can gain a lot by using Cl14/B.die kits, including settings at 3600 from stock or O.Ced. Those kits O.C very well, for both AMD and Intel users. Be it with a 5600X or even better the 7 5800X 3D which cache combined with Cl14 RAM can offer a significant increase in performance under load (that would be 4K), and yes it translated to DCS as well, I played multi-players scenarios with my 1080Ti with nearly all settings maxed out, FPS wasn't fantastic but it worked. It's up to you which CPU to use anyway but if you go the AMD way you'll be able to optimize your system in order to prevent your CPU to throttle down under load thanks to the RAM. Here, tested in 3DMark Pro at 4K 2 X MSAA, from a 5600X/Cl14 3200 to a 7 5800X 3D Cl14 3600. The 5600X and its RAM were boosted with Ryzen Master and Afterburner, the settings for the 7 5800X 3D and RAM were stock, so there is an increase in performance at 4K because there is no longer a GPU/RAM/CPU bottleneck and the CPU controller can keep all channels fully opened. That's the first thing I did with my AMD system and the extra money for the B.die RAM is worth it.

Why would people do that? They were literally rushed to production and when one manufacturer does that, bad things happen. Not one single manufacturer is using the stock Founder Edition cooler design and personally I ran a test with 3DMark Pro at MSAA X2 and the GPU never reached higher temperatures than 72 °C, that's with a bad cooling due to my motherboard refusal to run the card on PCI_E1, I had to lower it to PCI_E2 and the card is very close to the top of the power unit. I had to dismount one fan and it sits now at the bottom of the case, blowing upward through an opening, not ideal but still no hot spot or throttling down due to thermal limits. My tip: Do not use the Founder Edition card, look for an AMD card with a good cooling design, it's worth the extra money. Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor-X 24GB GDDR6 first run. Would be nice to know your PC specs, People generally don't really know how to set up an AMD system starting with RAM, that's where performances are lost...

Looks like AMD bad news make a lot of dosh from contributors for those Youtube gurus... Personally I'm happy I retain a critical mind and don't always take their videos for granted, I'm more than pleased with my new AMD card, on the other hand I don't trust GPU drivers that much, AMD or Nvidia alike..

My BIOS was updated, the latest 7D50v15, reason why I reverted to one which didn't have the "Change the default setting of Secure Boot" introduced from 7D50v14 because it could have been at the root of the problem if it actually lowered the amount of power available at boot. Apparently, from MSI forum topics, it seems that the motherboard has some issues with the PCI_E1, that's how I did find the suggestion of running the card from PCI_2. I have done all of those things, clear CMOS, then installed the AMD drivers in safe mode using DDU, there is little more I can do until MSI sort it out. I'm recharging my PICO4 then I'll have a test flight in DCS, my settings were already nearly all maxed out, obviously my FPS wasn't fantastic with the 1080Ti but now I have set MSAA to 4 and pixel density to 1.6. I'll test those settings when the PICO battery is full.

No, you're absolutely right. I spent hours trying to get this PCI_E1 slot to work after a friend of mine working at CEX Wembley tested the card, I knew it was OK. I just ran the first test if you want to have a look, I was laughing when I saw the results. Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor-X 24GB GDDR6 first run.

Disclaimer: At the moment the card is fitted to my motherboard PCI_E2 slot so it is not running as fast as it could be, because apparently the PCI_E1 slot might be faulty. Still once I changed slot the card ran flawlessly. The previous test I conducted with an EVGA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti was compared to the previous configuration with an AMD 5600X and Cl 14 3200 RAM kit, I have now an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D and Cl14 3600 RAM kit. Gains were quite significant thanks to the combination of the Ryzen 3D and Cl 14 RAM kit ( 4 X 8GB to take advantage of interleaving). Now I have ran the test with my brand new Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor-X 24GB GDDR6, after some issues with the card refusing to provide with a signal, due to the suspected faulty PCI_E1 slot, I managed this score. 3DMark Pro, MSAA X2 settings as previously, but stock settings, NO boost for either the GPU or CPU. I don't have the details for the FPS of the 1080Ti but it was mostly on the low 30/20 for the most demanding tests. Conclusion: I'll be very upset if MSI can't help with the PCI_E1 slot issue I really don't want to return the motherboard and right now performance could be greatly improved as the GPU is running at X8 instead of X16... The lower Physics Score (CPU) is mostly due to the fact that the GPU takes over the bulk of the load, it didn't reflect on the FPS at all, at 57.67 FPS during this test, it is more than double, if not triple what I saw with the 1080Ti. The fans were working hard but cooling could be better, the card sits lower in the case and the fan which was under it now sits at the bottom of the case, blowing upward through an opening, I have a slimmer fan in front (-10mm to a standard 120mm) and will fit another one in the lowest position as soon as possible. The card didn't throttle down due to thermal issues and the whole thing didn't seems to run hotter than with the boosted 1080 Ti. So was it worth the money? Hell yeah! 183.84% improvement justify it, a graphic Score 158.877% higher too. I don't think I'm gonna have much trouble running DCS at my target settings even running the card at X8. Now it's MSI support turn to get this thing to work to its full potential (if the PCI_E1 slot is not dead). Regards and fly like Maine Yaks.

Thanks for your reply. I finally resolved the issue by installing the GPU on the PCI_2E slot and it booted straight away the PCI_1E might be faulty. I will now install the proper driver for it in safe mode, the drawback is I lost the front USB connection because the card is too thick to fit in the slot without pushing the connector down and risking to damage it and/or the slot but I have plenty more in the back, this motherboard is clearly not designed to take cards of this size. My BIOS was the latest version but I chose to revert to the last without the "Change the default setting of Secure Boot" introduced from 7D50v14 because it could have been at the root of the problem if it actually lowered the amount of power available at boot. Also the fan which was previously under the card sits now down the bottom of the case blowing upward, I have a thinner one (10mm difference with standard fans) just in front/above it and will order another one to position it on the lower fan position, I guess cooling will be even better. That's about it really. System seems stable so far... Again, thank you for trying to help. Fly safe.

Hi! I've been building a brand new system, here are my specs old and LAST: MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D. EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB. Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor-X 24GB GDDR6 32 GB G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) RAM Cl14 DDR4 3600. SAMSUNG 870 EVO Series 2.5" 2TB SATA III V-NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD). SAMSUNG SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB. SPCC Solid State Disk 223GB. Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG. TWCS Throttle. PICO 4 256GB. My brand new GPU, a Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor-X 24GB GDDR6 fail to produce any signals. I took it to CEX Wembley where a friend working as a tester had it working without any problem. We thought my system was undervolted with a Corsair RM850X, so I replaced it by a Corsair RM1000X, still no signals, using the same HDMI connection, I even tried an adapter DVI to HDMI which works with my EVGA GEFORCE GTX 1080Ti but still no results. Cabling have been checked (3 X PCIE connectors) and works with the 1080Ti. I have no clue what causes this problem, for all I know it could be the BIOS or/and support issue with the motherboard. CMOS was flashed several times over using a jumper since the battery is quasy inaccessible, half hidden by some sort of cooling device I can't identify because it doesn't show in the manual. Tickets have been written to MSI, AMD, Sapphire and card seller supports, so far, Corsair and Sapphire have replied but we know now that it is not a voltage issue and that the card is working just fine on a test bench. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance.

Thanks. We know you are working hard to fine tune this module but it is already very good! Keep the good work up!

Seen it but when you start, you'd like to have access to them in game, been doing touch and go to test my curve settings and get use to the pattern, in some training maps you can't even access the airfield radio and TACAN infos, no TWR comm, you have to hope it's already all set up for you...

I'm sure we all will, thanks guys for the hard work! There sure are issues with our control integration and interaction to the game, I use a Thrustmaster Warthog with a TWCS throttle and I had no issues with the Mirage 2000C or any other modules I flew up to now, I figured trying to set up the curves would help but on my own it was near impossible to get a satisfactory set up especially rudder. My Warthog trim is set but stock, perhaps I might be able to make it more reactive because if I try to fly the aircraft on trim right now it's a bit of a roller coaster ride, I'm sure the real F1 isn't so difficult to trim. It would be good to have or be able to find some info in game (present in the aircraft manual) such as: RPM/speed for pattern level flight with landing gear and flaps down, I do a lot of speed hunting which doesn't help and the result is very distracting. Pattern Altitude. If I want to do a PTL, I need those parameters to get it right, if the airfields provide with those info it's a lot better than guessing, I was trained for the rectangular pattern at 500ft among other techniques, right now I'm only guessing and In some maps it is impossible to fly that low, so if the info are out there we need to find them. Normally when you're based on an airfield you have ground visual clues to know when to start the turns on top of the 45° to runway axis clue, at the right distance from runway, altitude and speed it makes things a lot easier, we need to learn this stuff with the F1 before using IFR instruments to land. Anyway, as I was saying, the module is already very good, fine tuning it will only make it better.

Virtual Desktop might give you the option for two displays otherwise, I'm the wrong guy to ask for networking. Don't pay attention to the "Headset Not Detected" message at the bottom, it's STEAM BETA which requires Pico Streaming Assistant to be able to detect it while I just started Virtual Desktop on its own for the screenshot. Normally STEAM doesn't support Pico4, nor can you run the Aerges Mirage F1 with it but with Steam VR BETA, it is possible to do both without problems.

They wouldn't introduce changes if there were no issues.

I don't think it is. You imply that players are not able to control the aircraft when in fact it is an issue with the flight characteristics, induced yaw is a reality with spoilers but again not to this amplitude, one should be able to input small corrections without any adverse moment as it is the case in this video. If the pilot use the stick with small corrections there shouldn't be any yaw moment as shown in this video, not the case with the module.

OK according to RAZBAM manual, the 2000C used by the EC 2/5 Île-de-France is a RDI... I stand corrected, L’Armée de l’Air Française s’équipe de DSC World – Mirage 2000 Mirage 2000 at Orange-Caritat Air Base using DCS: DCS: M-2000C by @RAZBAM &nbsp;@eagledynamics &nbsp; RAZBAM details unprecedented access to the Armée de l’Air I think I know my bit about those two variants... LES MISSILES AIR-AIR DE LA DEUXIÈME GÉNÉRATION Centre des hautes études de l'armement. Département d'histoire de l'armement. Comité pour l'histoire de l'aéronautique. Paris COMAERO https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb42381212q Official website for archive on the subject of French weaponry, the document needed for this article are not all-public.

Good one. Same here, although I know enough about the F1 to be suspicious, Dassault wouldn't have released in the market an aircraft with this sort of behavior, according to some F1 CR pilot who transitioned from the IIIR, it is more lively in turbulent atmosphere because of the slats, but nothing about induced yaw at all. In this video we can see him flying between 300 and 400 kt, rolling out of a turn a lot quicker than I dare in the game with no adverse effect to the aircraft stability, he even reaches the yellow/red zone in the AoA indicator without blinking. During his touch and go he can make small corrections with precision, something I find impossible even with good curves dampening most of those adverse effects, when I spend my time chasing the axis with the velocity vector all over the place, in short the aircraft looks a lot more stable and controllable than the module. I just want to say to finish that I think that this module is already very good, I'm happy I purchased it and those little issues will certainly will be sorted, then we will have more time to focus on the systems and procedures...

Of course I did, I flew test flights many times to correct the issue and I couldn't quite manage to have a satisfactory setting, it took the intervention of fab.13 to get something I was able to manage, I just flew some laps with touch and go and it helps but I still find the the trimming and induced yaw issues a tad too much. I didn't crash and managed a few touch and go...