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No, but that's very Windows like.

Thread revive: Perspective of a newcomer when it comes to sticks/software and best bang for buck and economics. Used/Purchased/Returned: Thrustmaster t-1600 - too much spring tension, TOO big palm rest, impossible to use for dogfighting/notching missiles, according to Warthog reviews electronic wiring just as bad as CH. LOGITECH X-52 manufactured 2020 - Seems cheaply made, mapping stick presses to keyboard strokes seems weird. Software user interface is atrocious, Logitech has done NOTHING to improve upon Saitek's work, in fact they removed features like the throttle tension and cheapened the materials and linked their bloody crap software to social media instead of actually working on it - HR and marketing took over, engineering was relegated. Nothing like some of their actual products, like the MX series trackpads. Stick is ok tension wise, but looks and feels like a Mattel commercial. Huge disappointment. LOGITECH X-56: A lot of bad/defective parts reported in reviews. Throttle reported to have REALLY bad S/N ratio in its USB output requiring huge amounts of amplification. CH: Purchased by another bigger company which works on the same space as they did: industrial Joystick production. Now focused on industrial products, still willing to support their flight sim line. Made in Mexico, NOT CHINA, and assembled in San Diego. Using Pots with 8 bit ADCs and very low throw springs, polar opposite of T-1600. Not much support on DCS community when it comes to profiles. Still, created before Globalization. What's wrong with high Industry standards? How cheap is cheap. Reviews: VKB: Designed by Byelorussians, assembled in Taiwan or is it China? 80 dollars more than CH Fighter stick for slightly better product including shipping: Gladiator NXT. Total package of good Engineering (both mechanical and electrical) and apparently software. Only stick that comes close to CH Fighter stick in handling and spring configuration is their top of the line base, costing 350-400 with a stick. Virpil: ALSO designed by Byelorussians. Assembled in Byelorussia. COSTS a FORTUNE thanks to EU, not as good as VKB when it comes to Electrical Engineering, positively WORSE than CH in that department. Not good bang for buck. Would never take it near a source of EMI. Warhog: Almost perfect Throttle except for A-10s most important feature: Target designator stick. Stick is also an EMC nightmare just like CH and Virpil, actually worse because CH barely has any cables and they're all distributed over a large space. Atrocious spring tension, just like its younger cousin. Also "all metal" making it heavier and harder on the gimbal and with a cast metal casing at the bottom that breaks. So, was I wrong to go with CH in the 100-150 range considering the current market and world events and all this?

I can't remember as it has been ages since I looked at specs for Gameport, does it even support 32 bit Dwords?

Hello, Newb for the second time (started in April but returned my HOTAS because it was too stiff) here. I got the CH Fighter stick and am having Trim/Rudder problems with it, after many years (the age of DOS and MS Flight Simulator 2.0 or something similar), last thing I played was Flaming Cliffs 2.0 demo and F22 Raptor by Novalogic. So far I've tested only Free Flight mode with the Su-27 and the F-16, on every case the plane starts rolling left until it banks and it crashes. Tried trim(using keyboard) but it doesn't really work. Tried trim wheels and that seems to work but am suspecting there's a device input config mapping because both Windows and CH Control manager give a reading of 128/128 with no JITTER when the stick is left alone. Installation procedure. Start Windows 10. Go to Login Screen (the computer was already on and user logged in) Plug in device. Go to Windows Set Up USB Controllers(used it before with Thrustmaster and Logitech) Test controller, everything seems fine. Test DCS Problem appears Look at config, the CH Fighterstick Column appears with the Rudder setting having a JoyRZ axis that is NOT listed in Windows. Install CH Software. Make sure device is in Direct Mode Create a Map in Control Manager from scratch for the Figherstick. Everything works, I did not download the Map onto the device. Exit Control manager. Test again Same thing. Play with the X axis trim wheel which has a Detent(NOICE!!) seems to alleviate the problem Reset Trim (LCtrl+T on Su-27) Everything goes to hell. More so when I go back into Adjust COntrols I notice the JoyRz is assigned back to the Rudder setting, DCS did it by itself after I deleted it, WHY? This is on openbeta 2.5.6. The stick itself is a delight to fly with, except for that problem on two completely different flight models, a simplified (Su-27) and a pro(F-16). Any hints help, etc would be much appreciated.

If that's true they TRULY are an oldschool company that's just relatively speaking bad software engineering in the Internet's time and age. There are many positives as well but the fact that they don't have a repo, a team and Self Documenting code is just sad. It should take about 2 weeks to 1 month for your average driver engineer to figure it out, as long as they have the source code. And here I thought Logitech/Saitek was bad.

Just came here looking for answers about Trim/Rudder because I only have the figher stick. I started with Just the stick and no extra software, I tried creating a map and all the button presses work in the CH Manager. I already had uninstalled Windows Store(there's a PowerShell Command for that, please Google it as I can't remember out of the top of my head. The command only uninstalls for the current user).