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I was about to make a similar thread. I just tested the winter textures, and though they look decent, rivers and lakes should definitely be frozen in the winter (even some brackish fjords should be at least partially covered in the middle of winter). We should also have snow depth, but I assume this is something ED has to do on the engine side, and not a terrain maker issue. I don't know if it's possible in DCS, but helicopter operations on frozen lakes and rivers is a real thing here in Northern Norway during winter.

So far so good. Have just tried starting it from cold and dark and doing a simple flight and landing. Jester said the landing was so smooth that he almost fell asleep, so I'll take that as a win. No obvious bugs or issues yet, but I've just started after all. first impression is certainly good!

Oh well. I wish I was surprised.

I think the MiG-17F is the perfect choice. Very common variant of a legendary aircraft. I can't wait to try it out against the F-4, among other things. Now, if only we could get more Vietnam era planes (including AI planes) and a Vietnam map... That would be something. Either way, I am looking forward to this module and hope it isn't multiple years away from release.

I find it confusing that wishes or suggestions for improvement (like this op) has to be reported as a "bug". Incorrect appearance of concrete tiles or low-rez textures are not "bugs" per se, are they? I ask in advance because once the norwegian airfields in my area get made, I will definitely try to compare to reality and make similar suggestions.

Keep in mind that the very steep fjords that most tourists know are in the south-west of the country (outside the Kola map). Fjords in northern Norway are usually not as extreme as Sognefjorden and Lysefjorden (with the famous "Pulpit Rock") for example. Northern Norway has more U-shaped valleys (and fjords). Still steep, but different.

I don't know the specific names of the different areas in Setermoen firing range, but I have personally seen F-16s do strafing runs up there a few years ago, so it is a firing range for aircraft as well. The other firing ranges near Bardufoss AFB (not yet modeled) are only army stuff as far as I know (artillery, tanks and small arms ranges)

I will take some more pictures once summer starts for a better comparison. These were just random pictures I've taken in my area over the past couple of years

Even though Norway is very unpopulated still, I had to check out my area in the sim compared to reality. This is near Rundhaug, about 15-20km east of Bardufoss a(the airport will come in a later update). Not too shabby, but I really hope Orbx adds some houses in the smaller rural areas as well in the future. And yes, I know it's early access and that Norway has not been a priority yet. And winter textures will definitely be very needed. (Yes, that is an ice bridge in the winter btw)

Yes, I know. I hope that sometime in the future, snow depth will be a thing in the sim.

This highlights the point that maybe snow should have depth, as it would certainly add a lot of realism to any winter map.

I think it looks interesting. I would ofcourse love a more modernized version with chinese avionics just to see how it is, but that is probably not feasible at this time. And there may be many reasons for that. Considering the level of fidelity required on DCS modules, the availability of non-classified information is crucial, and that means not everything is possible. In a dream world, I would love to see a J-10 in DCS for example, but I also realize that technical information is hard to come by, so I must simply accept it. And that's why I like DCS: the modules attempt to be quite faithful to the subject matter. If I want an arcadey surface-level game with F-35s, J-20s and all kinds of bleeding edge tech, then that is not DCS. I am sure there are games that can provide this but it will come at the expense of realism. (or the complete lack of it) Realism requires information, and on this type they have clearly found enough information to be able to move forwards with it. Ofcourse even DCS is still a video game and can never be truly 100% accurate, but at least it can come decently close. People are obviously entitled to their opinions, but from my own personal experience I would recommend focusing your energy on the stuff you enjoy rather than bashing the things you don't. If this isn't interesting to you, then that is perfectly fine. You want everyone to know? Okay, sure. But why though? Someone hops into the forum for this plane and starts criticising Deka Ironworks for choosing this plane. What is the best case scenario you are expecting? That they drop their three years of research and progress because some random user on the forum don't have an interest in this particular type? Or do you want someone to comfort you? I am nobody's boss, so you obviously don't need to listen to me, but my advice is to instead go to the forums of the planes you DO look forward to and share your hype instead of being toxic on the modules you DON'T care about. Just a thought. Like the things you like and ignore the things you dislike, and you'll probably be happier in the long run.

I am excited! Deka has done a great job with the JF-17, so I am sure this project is in great hands!

I was flying the Apache and doing some changes to the control settings. All good so far. Then I switched to the Mi-24 Hind and whenever I open the control settings, it doesn't default to the Mi-24 as it should, but still shows the setup for the Apache. I know I can switch which plane I am changing the settings for in the drop down menu, but it's very inconvenient that it keeps defaulting to a plane I am not flying. Several times I started changing things like axis settings before realizing I was messing up my AH-64 settings rather than tweaking my current plane. As far as I know, it only happens with Apache. Even going back to the main menu and starting a new mission doesn't fix it. I have to restart DCS for it to correctly display the settings og the active plane. To reproduce: Fly the Apache, open controls settings, close settings, switch plane type, open controls settings -> should still show Apache settings rather than active plane.