Lasko

How many times are you going to ask this expecting a different answer? And "Steam Support" has no idea about how the contracts and agreements between ED and RB play into any decision like that. Quoting "Steam Support" is useless in this discussion.

Nope, that's not how contracts work. ED is still obligated to pay for all of the SE sales according to whatever contract they have. The question is how much does RZ owe for infringement/damages/whatever, if anything. Once both those numbers are known and agreed, it can be resolved. Neither one is going to happen separately.

Just another "working for free" accusation without even an acknowledgement that payment for sales is the tip of the iceberg in this issue. Appears to me to be another public sentiment manipulation, not encouraging or conducive to an amicable resolution.

If this is your main problem, then request a credit to buy something else. If that's not enough and the situation has soured you on DCS overall, that is unfortunate but still doesn't change anything.

That isn't how any of this works. You want them to essentially say "This is a confidential matter, but here is what we know..." You have unrealistic expectations.

If only you'd done this 8 months ago, we could have avoided this whole messy conflict.

This no longer happens with 2.9.11.4686.

This was much easier to reproduce than I thought. The attached track is from an MP mission (Nevada) that I have for testing. For this track I started the mission, waited at the faction selection screen for 20 minutes, then when joining the aircraft slot the game freezes for 50 seconds. If I select an aircraft slot right away it works as normal. The freeze happens right here in the log: 2024-11-18 21:44:04.488 WARNING BACKENDCOMMON (66212): Need to reprocess [DDS] image '/textures/m8mtv_cpt_glass_norm.dds'. Reason: Conversion requires - expanded pixel size, setting alpha to known value. Source is an 8:8:8 (24bpp) format 2024-11-18 21:44:54.278 INFO DXGUI_WIN_ADAPTER (Main): resize main window to [1920, 1080] server-20241118-132257.trk dcs.log

That's an assumption that X > Y. I presume the value of Y is yet to be determined, along with whatever side effects of Y existing at all. If it was as simple as a + b = c this would have been resolved long ago.

I don't have a track for this because so far they've been way too big to upload or use. But I have figured out something, maybe? If I join an MP server, then am in an observer slot for some length of time (don't have a min/max estimate), then on selecting an aircraft slot the game freezes for a length time that might be proportional to the length of time being observer. At least that's my conclusion so far. Now that I've figured that out I'll try to get a track, or at least better examples.

No one has ever said that and the statement is ridiculous on its face. This is just garbage tier trolling. welcome to ignore.

I haven't been able to reliably recreate this or get a good track file. I also disabled Supercarrier again to mitigate the issues with the slot list reshuffling and freezing which seems also to be related. I was hoping this was something already reported, if I can get something definitive I will add it here.

Not specific to any aircraft, game hangs for more than three minutes after drawing the first part of the cockpit display. It doesn't appear to be doing anything and Windows says "Not Responding." After 3:48 it carried on as if nothing happened. This seems to happen the first time selecting an aircraft slot after joining the server. 2024-09-01 17:23:53.268 INFO EDCORE (Main): Loaded E:/DCS World/Mods/aircraft/Mi-8MTV2/bin/Mi8.dll 2024-09-01 17:23:54.399 INFO EDCORE (Main): Loaded E:/DCS World/Mods/aircraft/Mi-8MTV2/bin/CockpitMi8.dll 2024-09-01 17:23:54.704 INFO APP (Main): Skip deleteDynGroupByUnitID, its not dynamic slot unit 2024-09-01 17:23:54.704 ERROR Lua::Config (Main): Call error release_player_slot:bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil). 2024-09-01 17:23:56.373 INFO LuaNET (Main): Trying to Launch SRS @ E:\DCS World\DCS-SimpleRadio-Standalone 2024-09-01 17:23:57.578 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() LOD 0 40 squares 2024-09-01 17:23:57.584 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() LOD 1 148 squares 2024-09-01 17:23:57.586 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() LOD 2 104 squares 2024-09-01 17:23:57.586 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() LOD 3 101 squares 2024-09-01 17:23:57.586 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() 14.682400 ms 2024-09-01 17:23:59.213 INFO APP (Main): MissionSpawn:spawnLocalPlayer 567,Mi-8MT 2024-09-01 17:23:59.365 INFO VISUALIZER (14844): ILV loaded for /models/Cockpit_Mi-8MT.edm.ilv 2024-09-01 17:23:59.366 INFO ENLIGHT (14844): get cockpit shading params from /models/Cockpit_Mi-8MT.edm.lua 2024-09-01 17:23:59.392 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: registered radio receiver/transmitter "JADRO_1A" with id - 0 2024-09-01 17:23:59.392 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: enabled VOIP capability for radio JADRO_1A 2024-09-01 17:23:59.396 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: registered radio receiver/transmitter "R_863" with id - 1 2024-09-01 17:23:59.396 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: enabled VOIP capability for radio R_863 2024-09-01 17:23:59.398 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: registered radio receiver/transmitter "R_828" with id - 2 2024-09-01 17:23:59.398 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: enabled VOIP capability for radio R_828 2024-09-01 17:23:59.399 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: registered radio receiver "ARC_9" with id - 3 2024-09-01 17:23:59.400 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: registered radio receiver "ARC_UD" with id - 4 2024-09-01 17:23:59.555 WARNING COCKPITBASE (Main): no livery for ns430 , mirrors and MFDs can be broken 2024-09-01 17:23:59.567 INFO JSAVIONICS (Main): initState OK 2024-09-01 17:23:59.570 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): WebRTC VOIP init: registered radio receiver/transmitter "GNS430_Radio" with id - 5 2024-09-01 17:23:59.761 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): lua state still active SPU_7, 36 (status undefined) 2024-09-01 17:23:59.761 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): lua state still active JADRO_1A, 37 2024-09-01 17:23:59.761 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): lua state still active R_863, 38 (status undefined) 2024-09-01 17:23:59.761 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): lua state still active R_828, 39 (status undefined) 2024-09-01 17:23:59.761 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): lua state still active MACROS, 44 (status undefined) 2024-09-01 17:23:59.762 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): lua state still active EXTERNAL_CARGO_VIEW, 59 (status undefined) 2024-09-01 17:23:59.790 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): lua state still active GNS430, 1 (status undefined) 2024-09-01 17:23:59.790 INFO COCKPITBASE (Main): lua state still active GNS430_Radio, 3 2024-09-01 17:23:59.791 INFO JSAVIONICS (Main): initState OK 2024-09-01 17:24:00.364 INFO JSAVIONICS (Main): loaded 129562 nav aids 2024-09-01 17:24:01.511 INFO JSAVIONICS (Main): loaded 146684 cities 2024-09-01 17:24:01.520 INFO WORLDGENERAL (Main): loaded from mission Scripts/World/birds.lua 2024-09-01 17:24:01.623 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND (6584): texture 'NS430_1' not found. Asked from '' 2024-09-01 17:24:01.623 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() LOD 0 6 squares 2024-09-01 17:24:01.624 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() LOD 1 26 squares 2024-09-01 17:24:01.625 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() LOD 2 14 squares 2024-09-01 17:24:01.625 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() LOD 3 10 squares 2024-09-01 17:24:01.625 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (22136): surface5 gc() 2.426800 ms 2024-09-01 17:24:02.477 WARNING BACKENDCOMMON (8840): Need to reprocess [DDS] image '/textures/m8mtv_cpt_glass_norm.dds'. Reason: Conversion requires - expanded pixel size, setting alpha to known value. Source is an 8:8:8 (24bpp) format 2024-09-01 17:27:50.642 INFO DXGUI_WIN_ADAPTER (Main): resize main window to [1920, 1080] 2024-09-01 17:27:50.784 WARNING Mission (Main): register_unit(70666,18252801) : db.units['70666'] table is missing 2024-09-01 17:27:50.785 WARNING Mission (Main): register_unit(70667,18253057) : db.units['70667'] table is missing 2024-09-01 17:27:50.790 WARNING Mission (Main): register_unit(70668,18253313) : db.units['70668'] table is missing 2024-09-01 17:27:50.812 INFO ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 80.3ms

Interesting, it seems to be OK to me. Are you seeing a difference from the waterline vs velocity indicator? A track would definitely help. 2024-07-13 F15E F2.trk