i had the same dilemma myself untill today. I ordered the warthog. my reasons is IL 2, black shark, upcoming storm of war and A-10C. i have used saitek for years, all models since X35. nice sticks but they wear out in 2 years. so looking at the pricerange of the WH and X65 i went for quality this time. WH costs more but lasts for 5+ years and force sensing won't "feel" right for me when i fly WWII planes or BS. I know X65 has better quality than the older model but some reviews has pointet out the "plastic" feel to it.