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Devrim

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  1. Do the Intel devs aware of that?

    People who know the issue or not, will eventually start to encounter the dyeing indicators due to degradation such as BSOD, CTD, or other crash types, right?. And after they research the cause, they will be surprised and realize that it's Intel's fault for months or years.

    How will Intel guys expect customer retention? How will they ensure customer trust? They will lose a huge amount of customer, fans etc. How can they afford this?
    Other than releasing micropatches, they need immediately to take action for customers' trust.

    At first, for me. 🤣

  2. Hi again. It's me.

    I've updated my MSI B-serie mobo. It has now x129 microcode patch.
    Returned to all default settings. No any voltage tweaks applied. Only Intel Turbo Boost thing enabled.

    I see currently 1.5+ volt on CPU-Z and HWMonitor readings,
    but I see currently 1.2~1.3 volts on HWinfo (Update: and I see similar values on AIDA64 too).

    It's 1.6V "max" on HWMonitor, but it's only 1.334V "max" on HWinfo.

    I'm not looking at VID stuff, I'm checking core voltages.
    Why is there so much difference? Which software is correct?

    Thx.

  3. 3 hours ago, LucShep said:

    Dude, sometimes I read these threads with such issues, I just feel like jumping to that other side of the screen and "LET ME MESS WITH THAT COMPUTER!" 😂🤣 LOL

    :lol:

    3 hours ago, LucShep said:

    I know it's your PC and your call but... an i7 14700KF at 4.3Ghz is not "ok" at all, IMO. 😕 

    I completely understand what you mean, but it's not me, it's Intel. :)))

    3 hours ago, LucShep said:

    I'm pretty certain at this point that you can not adjust the CPU Core Ratio (B760 mobo....).

    I can share all screenshots with you. You know MSI BIOS in its advanced mode. There's a huge OC button on the left side and you can set ratios P and E cores separately etc. etc. and I can see results in HWMonitor, CPU-Z or even Task Manager/Performance.

    3 hours ago, LucShep said:

    But, IIRC, you've disabled the Intel Turbo Boost and Boost Technology rows on the BIOS, right?

    No, I haven't right now. It was one of the temporary solutions. If I do that, --you know better than me-- no need those ratio or voltage tweaks. PC works at base frequency: 3.6GHz and I see around 1.01V and everything is nice. Even in DCS, I get good performance. While I was setting/struggling those adjustments I mentioned prev. post, I "enabled" the boost options back.

    3 hours ago, LucShep said:

    The black screen and freezes are due to the inability of the motherboard to feed the CPU (when boosting) - the B760 can't handle that i7 14700K when going full tilt.
    That's why it now works "ok" with boosts disabled (less effort for the motherboard VRM), at the cost of a very(!) sedated 14700KF.

    You're damn right man. I got it. 😕

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  4. Hi guys.

    No, no need to be sorry. No hijack or something. This is all our's thread, not mine. 🙂 

    Uuuuum... While reading the post above, I felt that I needed to apologize for buying B series mobo. 😄 Joking of course, but you guys're all right about this. I didn't research mobos in depth, and the seller(s) didn't give detailed info about CPU-mobo relation. But, at least, mobo specs say it's compatible with bla bla CPUs and overclocking is possible etc. etc... and... yes, it's cheaper than Z series. Anyway. @Hiob has right. I have RAMs and RTX; with those, I may gather a new system. Price is not an issue. I wish I was awake when buying my system.

    By the way Hiob; actualy I've never seen BSOD or something. Only, at high freqs, DCS has issues about starting the sim. mostly I can't skip the "15 Years..." splash screen. When I reduce the freq by setting ratio or offset voltage, I encounter no black screen problem.

    Anyway; Let's skip this chapter. 🙂

    Obviously, I can't set or enter a specific voltage value for the CPU on my stupido mobo. You know @LucShep, I can only set an offset value, and, your suggestion: "P-Core Ratio to 54 (for 5.4Ghz) and readjust the negative offset voltage for a little lower" - I set minus 0.100 and later 0.150 didn't work. I always see over 1.4V during DCS playing.

    So, finally I did this:

    • P-Core Ratio: 43 (for 4.3GHz.)
    • CPU Core Voltage Offset Mode: - by PWM
    • CPU Core Voltage Offset: 0.150

    and I see 1.387V max. and I see 180-190 FPS in game.

    and after doing this, (as mention a few lines above) I see a stability on DCS launching. When full CPU performance (despite the 1.5V issue), mostly I couldn't pass "15 Years" splash screen. After it I only see a black screen. No loading screen. After some amount of "castrating" the CPU, I have no problem with that.

    So...  I'll take it, until we see an effective solution from Intel; or maybe I'll grab a Z mobo... idk... 🙂

    Thanks a lot guys for your attention and helps. 💖

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  5. Okay okay. I'll switch to a Z series board, but I should check the size for my PC case, first. :lol:

    By the way; Apart from disabling Boost Technology, I think now I get a solution. I set these values:

    • P-Core Ratio: 43 (for 4.3GHz.)
    • CPU Core Voltage Offset Mode: - by PWM
    • CPU Core Voltage Offset: 0.100

    Now, I see 1.382 CPU voltage maximum. How is that? And in-game FPS is around 190~200.
    Should I reduce 100Mhz more?

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  6. Thanks so much for explaining and reply guys. Thank you LucShep.

    I'm not 100% sure where I'll use to adjust the voltage lines correctly in my (MSI) BIOS pages. So, I've just disabled Intel Turbo Boost and Boost Technology rows on BIOS and I guess I locked the CPU, right?

    UPDATE: A few minutes (before sent this post) I adjust some "offset" settings to -4 or -5 for ratios. I managed to see the values under 1.4V with Boost Technology.

    But, even without Boost Technology, at 3.4GHz, I've seen ~180 FPS in DCS, and volt values are around 1.01 or something.

    At least it's safe for me for these days.

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  7. Hey. May I ask a stupid question?

    What does exactly harm CPU?
    1) Overheating due to high voltage?
    2) Just high voltage itself?
    3) High voltage and high CPU usage?

    I see CPU voltage around 1.50 or 1.55 on CPU-Z software but, heating never exceeds 62 degrees and CPU usage is between 7%~25%.
    Still does it mean my CPU has got harm some amount?

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