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Do you feel offended :)Or do you again spamming the thread away from what the real problem is by starting teaching people how to express them selfs.

LOL, do you feel good about yourself when you help people to not show their frustration? It seems you really don't care about Su-27, why do you even reply to this posts. Its not enough whit spamming aim-120, you are starting to spam threads with your nonsense as well. If F-15 had as much attention as Su-27 in FC3 those who fly F-15 would be frustrated even more. PLZ, F-15 pilots were complaining because of blinking jammer, saying its not fear I can not take HOJ shots, it seems some just don't know how to play by same rules. At the moment its BIAS BS in FC3 where Su-27 doesnt work. I can feel the shit being in the air for some time now, like 9 months. People do get frustrated when they dont have their favorite aircraft working. Im not talking about the bias approach that I feel there is. The Su-27 aircraft's do not work LOL. And we just sitt and wait while you enjoy your F-15. Thats not what I paid for, I did not pay for having F-15 working but not Su-27!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:censored:ED. I know that DCS have bigger problems then Su-27s EOS, TWS but we did purchase FC3 and not F-15 update.

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Yes Volk the test is made 07.08.2013. Original version.

WOW on second video from 2:40, good hard 360 turn :)

This tests are made in FC3 1.2.5 after the missile fix. Someone might find use for it. Both launching platforms had same speed, alt, executing same maneuver and released same amount of Chaff. Missiles that were tested against each other. AIM-120C - ER-27 AIM-120B - ER-27 AIM-7 - ER-27 There is tacview files and track files in the Missile test.rar folder. Download link: https://rapidshare.com/files/2405291598/Missile%20Test.rar

Those labels appear when people have doble moral.

It is not directed directly at you.

Its funny that there is more F-15 fanboys typing in this thread the actually Su-27. Since FC3 there have never been so low activity by Russian aviation enthusiasts. I will not list why since thouse posts get delited. It is a shame how Su-27 have been threaded in FC3.

How many know top speed of F-22 and F-35? Whit Su-27SM you can atleast get the airdynamics right. And since there is more pilots that could talk about Su-27 flight dynamics it would get more realistic when you look in to AFM compere to F-35 or F-22.

GG why don't you have same attitude to F-35 and F-22 thread F-22, F-35 forget it :)

sorry for my spelling, but if you knew anything about this community you would know that 51st flying Su-27S mainly don't fear anyone, special f-15 fanboys. Since we have pounded them all even with outdated half working systems.

GG understand that when Su-27S model was out there was only development on aim-120B so you are flying in a dream whit aim-120B from 1994-2004 against missiles from 1986.

Not as mutch as F-22 and F-35 since there is more documentation on airdynamics.

"The F-15 Multistage Improvement Program (MSIP) was initiated in February 1983 with the first production MSIP F-15C produced in 1985. Improvements included an upgraded central computer; a Programmable Armament Control Set, allowing for advanced versions of the AIM-7, AIM-9, and AIM-120A missiles; and an expanded Tactical Electronic Warfare System that provides improvements to the ALR-56C radar warning receiver and ALQ-135 countermeasure set. (The final 43 F-15Cs included the enhanced-capability Hughes APG-70 radar, which was developed for the F-15E. These 43 F-15Cs with APG-70 radar are sometimes referred as Enhanced Eagles. Earlier MSIP F-15Cs with the APG-63 were upgraded to the APG-63(V)1 to significantly improve maintainability and enable performance similar to the APG-70. Existing F-15s were retrofitted with these improvements.") That should be a fear fight Su-27S vs F-15C stock models.

Sad news Wags. You really know how to make Su-27 fanboys happy and motivated. :censored:

What kind of poll is that, It seem the one who made it has little understanding about this aircrafts, They should not be in same poll since its aicrafts from different classes., Moderators I would like you to stop polls that are not giving anything, rather than confusion. polls should be more accurate. Su-30MK,MIG-21MF and Mig-23 lol, how can you put this aircrafts in same pool.

As much as you do on Ka-50s datalink. By the way, you do not prove your point by telling me that ED has the documentation. How would I know that you have access to it.

Why I connected su-33 to F-15s datalink is because we don't know anything about when this new upgrades were as standard or what this upgrades were capable of.

like I told you GG, there is more info on R-27 and R-73 which have more documentation public than for example aim-120A/aim-9. So actually we are making R-27 realistic while aim-120 making guises by how much it would be better. Pure speculations and not all of them do I agree whit. But thats what we all have to live with. I know your answer GG, If we knew it would appear to be even better, strange that ED didn't make missiles more effective but rather less effective compared to your claims from the past that missiles should hitt even better than FC1 and FC2. Same approach as you take to explain Su-33s upgrades is the way I would describe F-15s datalink, would be hard to model it.

Still waiting for your prove on F-15 datalink lunaticfringe. Make another thread and tell me how many squads have it and witch, how does it operate, would be good to have a manual or any legit document. I jumped in because I saw you talk about how good F-15 is in Su-27 thread. So I told you the biggest difference from stock models that you refuse to accept. Go and search on the net then, or ask someone who has more knowledge than me if you don't believe me. GG saying F-15C has it as standard, from which documentation, from what year? As i understand we were comparing stock models of Su-27S and F-15C. No updates there between that was made in 2005-2013. By then there were other aircraft flying that could take upon any version of F-15. Would be interesting to know as well where to find the AoA limiter and how f15 handle without it, As I understand, The limits are not in high AoA rather than maintaining control after the maneuver. Its about aerodynamics that can handle airflow that occurs in such high AoA conditions. Draken could make cobras as well. Here is a video of it in demonstration. But it was not as controllable as on Su-27 which forced the pilots only execute such maneuvers at safe altitudes. My belief is that biggest obstacles are the engines and airframe structure. Watch from 1:50, at 2.12 I believe the pilot loses control over the aircraft.

First time I see this video, must be old news for those who are into F35, thought I might as well share it for those who missed it.

I would say mirmidon have thicker skin than you. since he provided references to all his beliefs in a Su-27 thread, where you started to tell people that F-15 have even better features whit no ducumentation behind it, or logic for that matter:) I told you to start F-15 thread where you could discuss F-15C wishes. No need to jump on people because they believe in something you don't. You might get bitten back by the victim:doh:

Su-27SM need accurate AFM and how avionics is presented to the pilot. The rest is adjudicated guises where parameters are taken from known facts that can not really be proven, there is almost no info on Aim-120C/R-77 compere to R-27/Aim-7, still they were implemented in DCS to simulate tactics of aircrafts that employ them.

Su-27SM which stand for Su-27S(modernised) is multirole fighter that came after Su-27S. It would be like a dream to get my hands on that machine which has all capabilities mentioned above. It actually will be easier to model more accurate Su-27SM AFM because it will be possible to compare it to EDs Su-27S AFM. No offence but ED strongest side is in making good fly dynamics which they proved since Su-25.