Chimango

Exactly as Zaelu says. Apparently i got it ON for tracks only and used it only once. Thank you Focha, i'm glad you liked them. S!

New video for MiG-15 lovers: "ACE IN A DAY". Some PVP dogfights, three sorties, six F-86s downed. I hope you enjoy watching as much as i did flying and editing this vid. S!

Hola, les dejo el enlace al canal donde estan los videos tutoriales del MiG-15Bis en español. A su vez, un enlace al ECV56 donde está el material escrito de instrucción para este avión (aún en construcción y actualizandose). Canal de youtube (Alas Virtuales)=> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtiwMotAzQaTxql5oLnbr9Q Escuela de vuelo en ECV56=> http://www.ecv56condor.com.ar/Foro/viewtopic.php?TopicID=45739 Saludos y buenos vientos! :pilotfly:

Well, a week's gone by and most people have voted for Korea 1951. I will start working right away. I just need three things: 1) Two russian speaking guys (for recording a couple of messages i have in mind) 2) One chinese speaking guy (same reason as above) 3) Two beta testers (one with SSD disk and another one with HDD disk if possible) If you know anyone who can help me with it let me know please. So, i hope it's finished in a couple of months; im targeting at a minimum of a 12 mission campaign for a MiG-15 pilot flying for the 324ºIAD. And again, if anyone knows how to edit city and airfield names on the map, that would be the most important add on for this campaign and it would be brilliant!

Hi Art-J! Regarding your post: I will clarify it for you: the 1.3:1 k/d ratio refers to Sabres vs MiG-15s piloted by VVS. The most accurate numbers we have to date show 293 VVS MiGs shot down by F86s; 270 Sabres shot down by MiG15s. (That is actually 1.085:1) And let's not forget something; this is an impressive number by VVS, because their main task above Korea was not to kill Sabres, but to stop and shoot down heavy B29 bombers and attack planes. The escorting Sabres only task was to kill MiGs! So, even then, soviet MiGs managed to score almost equal k/d ratio than F86s. We both agree on this one. What i mean is about current studies, not claims during conflicts. Let's just forget about what pilots claim during conflicts because it is confusing and they will always overclaim. The most important numbers in order to see stats and events closer to reality (what i call facts), are the ones done after years go by and after deep research. I also know about these numbers Art-J, but they are outdated data, i would ignore them. Specially western sources are mostly american sources that didn´t care too much about soviet documents, one of the few (or the only one?) american researcher who really studies soviet documents is Jon Guttman. On the other hand, Igor Seidov and Diego Zampini have data from many american sources, even from Stephen "Cookie" Sewell an ex employee of the US Department of Defense

I agree with you overclaim always exists, true, from both sides; but is inaccurate USSR claimed more kills than the amount of planes deployed by USAF. Where did you get that data? And how many planes does it say USSR claimed? Actually it's USAF that often tried to hide real kills by saying "damaged by AAA". Nameless or unknown AAA is more vague and acceptable than saying to the world "Comunists pilots shot our boys down". Do you know the amount of planes USAF say were lost due to accidents? I can give you those numbers if you are interested, you'd be amazed, they are even more ridiculous than the "10:1 Sabre supremacy" affirmation. I'm aware about the difference between individual and shared kills. Actually since WW2 the soviet planes would separate those kills; they would paint a red star on their planes for every individual kill, and a white one for a group kill. The two high scoring aces from KTO, Sutyagin and Pepelyayev, scored individual and not shared kills. And regarding planes lost, if 3 guys shot on a plane even if they get 1 kill each, they would report it as one enemy plane lost, not 3.

Good to hear that, you are welcome Sith.

Where did i say that you should not trust internet? I just mentioned not to trust Weakipedia as a deep source, not the whole internet. Please stop writing things i didn´t say. I'm really interested in that! I'd like to check your information, but for the third time in a row i ask you about your sources and you keep avoiding to mention them I find your comments very vague Fight? No fight here mate, i'm really keen on KTO air to air history and as i'm really open minded i have researched a lot for the last 2 years, so i try to avoid misinforming people, and always open to learn more. We are into a discussion not a fight, aren´t we? No fight here, maybe is the language barrier that makes it look that way. What opinions? Western opinions and stats mainly? What soviet perspective material have you read so far? Have you read Seidov's material? (the most important research found to day) If you are open minded as you say, then ask questions! That is what real open minded people do when they don´t know much about something. You ask me to recommend some reading? I've already done it twice on this thread -check firsts posts- but it seems that you have been doing selective reading; i wonder why :smilewink::music_whistling:

Actually i take it with interest. Didn´t you say you were really interested in KTO too...? :music_whistling:

Weird. You said above that this is not a competition, but you present the subject as a poll, where we can add points to one or the other. If you want opinions, the voting part of it is not very helpful as facts show it: you see? no one commenting opinions in this thread, just mere votes :music_whistling: So, you are new to KTO history...but already voted Jabara as the first ace. Based on what Sith? I ask you again cause i'm really interested to know where you get your data from but so far you have always avoided the question. Please tell me is not just from Weakipedia! Really? I thought it was not a competition! :megalol: Jokes apart, it's up to us to decide what sources we trust. For me is easier, i'm neutral -Argentina- so i don´t have nationality biased issues on this matter, i love USAF planes and history as well as VVS ones. My country flew mainly NATO planes, Sabres, Meteors, Skyhawks, etc. But when it comes to History i like to be as objective as possible, specially after being misinformed by Hollywood movies and documentaries from History Channel for so long, and we in the west were misinformed over decades. The most reliable sources i've found say the following: 1) K/D ratio between VVS MiG15s and USAF F86s was almost equal 1,3:1 . And let's not forget something history channel or some western historians don´t tell you: Migs main task was not to shoot down Sabres, but bombers and attack planes. Sabres main task, was to kill MiGs. So, even then an almost equal k/d ratio between them, what is your opinion about real success then? And another thing: VVS lost 335 planes against NATO, NATO lost 1,100 planes against VVS MiG15s. 2) Top two fighter aces in KTO were soviet MiG-15 pilots: Sutyagin and Pepelyayev. 3) Number of aces during KTO: VVS= 53 aces; USAF=40 aces 4) First jet vs jet ace in History: Kramarenko (or even Alfeyev reached ace status before Jabara) And finally and going a bit OT, during WW2 the top alllied aces were soviets (Kozhedub, Rechkalov, Pokryshkin, etc) also during KTO the top aces were soviet, and even nowadays in the international online campaigns (competition) and dogfights i have participated for the last 10 years, usually are russian pilots the ones who win. Let's give the guys some credit !

So, Sith, what is your opinion, who was the first one and based on what sources? I'm interested to know.

I agree there will always be propaganda specially during a conflict, but that it is also taken under consideration by historians who do the research. Anyway, the difference here is that soviet documentation was done for internal use, it was secret, and not for propaganda. On the other hand, we already know that "Sabre supremacy" or "10:1 k/d ratio" nonsense was pure propaganda made for tax payers ;) It's not a competition, but also giving an opinion without good knowledge about something, leads nowhere but to forum flood.

Well, people keep voting without writing their sources or anything. I think presenting this as poll is a bit weird, cause is not a matter of "what you think" but a matter of serious historic research which bring us closer to facts and not just mere opinions. So, Jabara being named the first jet vs jet ace is pure Cold War propaganda, not reality.

After soviet documents were declassified some years ago, we know Jabara was not the first jet vs. jet ace: And we also know F86s did not dominate KTO when they fought against soviet piloted MiG-15s from VVS; they were equal. Edit: recommended? Yes, read "Red devils over the Yalu" by Igor Seidov with the help of Argentine historian Diego Zampini. And about Kramarenko a very nice article if you are able to read spanish=> http://www.rkka.es/Otros_articulos/18_COREA_Serguey_Kramarenko/018_COREA_Serguey_Kramarenko.htmarenko/018_COREA_Serguey_Kramarenko.htm[/url]

Well, i'm reading all comments, thank you for your opinions. I think i will discard option B already, as Sith is working on something like that. Now, options A and C seem to be be the appealing ones and both have pro and againts: A - KTO historical PRO: Immersive as i have Igor Seydov's book "Red devils over the Yalu" with all real actions from day one; historical units, pilots, planes and events. Also we have enough planes to fight against like F86s; P51s, B29s. Of course i wish we had Thunderjets, Panthers and Meteors too. AGAINST: repetitive missions (intercept) as that was almost THE only task VVS MiGs had. Also flying a historic KTO campaign on a map with different city/airbases names is quite of an immersion turn off, but i'm asking now in the MODS section if there is a way to edit map names. (btw: is there any?) C - Cold War East vs West scenario inside Poland, Germany or Czech Republic PRO: It's an original scenario where everything is possible. The main pro i find here is the chance to make versatile and FUN missions. Ground attack, recon, intercept, and a huge variety of possibilities. For instance the first mission i have in mind is the campaign starter, where our character (Player) smuggles a MiG-15 from an airbase. AGAINST: Again, the map names. But other than that, nothing against i can think of. Note: Someone said Vietnam, is interesting but would be more suited for MiG-17s and 21s, not the 15s. There is a desert conversion for the Caucasus, maybe a conflict between Arabic League and Israel wouldn't be a bad idea! We'll see, meanwhile i will pair attention to the poll and comments for one week, and after that i'll decide where to go. Thank you guys for your opinions.

I've been wondering if it is possible to do it... i'd like to change map names for cities and airfields in order to transform the map to a different scenario. Is there any MOD for this?

I've made many campaigns for il2 1946 (both SP and MP) like "Honchos: red devils over the Yalu"; "The *CHE* path"; "Conflict for the Beagle Channel 1968"; "16ºGIAP Kobras"; etc. Now i'm planning to make a DCS SP MiG-15bis campaign but need pilots opinion about what you'd find more interesting to fly. A. Year 1951 - KTO historical campaign for 324º IAD B. Year 1953 - Border conflict between Georgia and URSS C. Year 1954 - Polish/German/Czesck conflict between communists and NATO IMO the first scenario (A) could be a bit limited and repetitive, as MiG-15s were just deployed for incercepting bombers and attack planes, also limited regarding available AI planes we have for NATO in KTO (F86s & P51s). Options B and C could be more fun, but some ppl don´t like non-historical campaigns as they don´t find it immersive, i don´t know. If none the above, which one would you like?

Ok LETCHIK my friend, as i promised i have a video against humans, as you asked. ;) There should be 5 air kills, but unfortunately one of my tracks got broken (btw: why this happens so often?) and 2 Sabre kills are missing, cause adding those images from my squadmate track using externals is not fun. For those who read spanish you have a very entertaining debrief from that mission here: http://www.ecv56condor.com.ar/Foro/viewtopic.php?TopicID=45675 Next wednesday we have the 2nd part of that MP dogfight competition, it is called "USAF REVENGE" and you are welcome to join a Sabre and shoot me and my "red devils" mates down! Sign up here=> http://www.ecv56condor.com.ar/Foro/viewtopic.php?TopicID=45686 :pilotfly:

YW D.T! I'm glad you like it

Done, check here for download=> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2394622#post2394622 :thumbup:

Skin belonging to #729 MiG-15 from Sergei "Bayda" Kramarenko, or "Casey Jones" as USAF pilots called him after shooting down Glenn Eagleston's Sabre. With this plane he shot down his first enemy pane in KTO, a F-80C (BuNo 49-1842) from 36 FBS, USAF on April 12th, 1951. Kramarenko was the first KTO ace, and the first jet vs jet ace in History. The skin has corrected NK markings with no white paint in the backround and also small "cuts" along the external red and blue lines. Blank skin included! DOWNLOAD=> https://www.mediafire.com/?wwv7tj1chgj5lvt Have fun! :pilotfly:

Jabara wasn´t the first Ace above Korea, he probably finished 1951 with only 4 kills. The first KTO ace was a VVS pilot. Quote from Diego Zampini -historian and KTO expert- on that same link provided at message #4, :

Sure Skull! I will send to you the mission but you'll have to wait until i come back home, i'm working in a another city right now and will be back on Monday. You speak spanish? Otherwise i will translate the briefing to english, np. BTW: i'm in the making of a MiG-15bis campaign. Haven't decided yet the story behind it, im between two: 1) a historic Mig15 campaign from early 51' where VVS veterans ruled the skies of KTO or 2) a campaign of a guy who spends hours flying the MiG15 module nowdays, and one morning he wakes up in a place he doesn't know, a city at war years ago, and he joins a MiG-15 regiment (during some ficticius scenario like cold war europe -Poland, Germany or something like that) and has to fight for freedom against capitalism. :megalol: Oh, and regarding this: Mate, we finally hosted the MP dogfight two days ago, the one i mentioned to you above. It was a 4vs4 dogfight, i was lucky to stay alive during 2 hours of mission, shot down 3 human Sabres (much more difficult than weak AI), also a human P51, and damaged a human escorted B29. You'll have that video soon, as you asked :D:thumbup:

Thank you George, now alpha is ok, no white numbertips. But, even after y repaint the numbers they just show the same than default ones, except number 6. And one weird thing, the number 6 on the left side shows like the edited one (picture), but the one on the right side shows the default one. Anyway, i give up with customizing numbers, thank you for your help anyway. S!

Ok George, i will...but how? I use photoshop. Any tutorial? Link? I usually save my skins in DXT1 (1 bit alpha channel)