Gators

It's been more than 2 years that we bought this plane and we are still waiting some promises that are not coming. Some of you will say again "be patient" and I would now respond "be realistic". I was the first one saying that RB was doing fantastic job (and I still think it) but all has been ruined by the attitude. You guys won't keep your customer only with beautiful promises. The Mirage will never be finished because of the Harrier as the Harrier as well because of the next plane. This is how thing works for some times now with DCS and 3rd party. Finally, the only thing I wanna say is : "do not play to much with our patience because seeing you working on the Harrier and the next plane while the Mirage ain't finished is not a question of patience..." I would love, as a customer, at least a response or an explanation from RB, but we had nothing from them on this thread, the Mirage might not be economically interesting anymore. Gators

Problem solved : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3373315&postcount=360 Thanks Gators

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Don't worry guys, the Mirage is in early access only for two years now, be patient please.

Nothing yet :cry_2::sleep:

Are we only two dudes bothered by that ?

Just want to highlight something about AP limitation. It is written in the M2000C doc that the area of use is 50 000ft - 500 ft (200ft for landing). This is what pilots have to respect but not what the plane can do. I mean today when you are in final at 400ft you cannot activate the AP to trim the plane, which is possible in real life (even at 1 ft). It does not make so much sense that we can fly under 500ft with the AP only if we activate it above. Same problem with the 50 000ft. What I mean is that the altitude is not a condition for the plane to activate or not the AP but only a pilot instruction. What's more, when you are landing to Nellis, the runway is higher than 500ft QNH, so you can activate the PA until the ground. I would like to have your thought on that. Gators

DCS 1.5.8.12162 today for the Open Beta only

Because when a customer bought a product two years ago full of promise and has nothing but a flying brick after two years just because of an other product in development, I think he can care about the developers marketing plan. Gators

Zeus said that they will push the new FM in next update and after that that it will not happened due to a problem. He never said it will be push to the next one or the next next one or .... I am not implying anything, I am just saying that he never said next week or in the 1.5.8. Gators

Who said the M2000C's update will release next week or in the 1.5.8? None. Gators

It doesn't look evident because we were waiting for an update past week and the problem could have been solved since, that's why I am asking. Because you look so confident in what you are saying, it means nothing for at least the next two weeks. Gators

As we haven't got any update of DCS the past week, do we gonna have something this coming week ? Of course if there is an update from ED. Gators

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I am not anxious Zeus, I just want to be sure that I will get what I paid for 2 years ago. I am not a AV-8B NA customer, so when I read that work on promised changed months ago are not start yet because of AV-8B NA, it does not make me anxious but a little bit in a bad mood.... Gators

Sounds good !

Hi everyone, the max flight level of the 2000 is 50 000ft so the airframe is supposed to support the differential pressure between the inside and outside below this altitude. However, at 38 000ft the P.CAB alarm turn on and stay on unless we go down. I have nothing in my doc which talks about the P.CAB light on near FL400, have you ? Another one little thing, with both wing tanks at FL400 and MIL thrust the plane cannot fly. It will lose speed until stall. I think this problem has been already mentioned, if not it is now. Gators

IRL never less than 400kg for landing with the 2000C

+1 Az :) @+ Gators

Ok thanks at least one bug is reported :thumbup:, things are processing.

Hi, Please do not bring with you some "I guess so" or "I don't think so" without evidence.

Gents, In order to add some credit to my affirmation, I let you google this : "BEAD-air-A 2012-002-I". This is a report of one M-2000C incident during a PO. It is in french, but you can see some pictures of the plane ready for the mission with a central fuel tank full of fuel and the FBW limiter on A/A :thumbup:

Gents, No misunderstood, I am not saying that all my words don't need confirmation, I just get informations from one side and I share its with you. I think it is a chance to know someone that flew with this plane, I mean exactly this plane because he was at the "EC 2/12 Picardie". Here are some points, I think most of them are already known and will be fix in a futur update. Sorry if there are some recurrence : - FBW Limiter A/A : 2 Magics + 2 S530 + center fuel tank (full or empty) - FBW Limiter CHARGE : Wings fuel tanks and/or Bombs + 2 Magics - Landing Gear alert : "Vi<225kt and N<80% with LG in" OR "Vi>260kt LG out" - AP is really good only missing the star on the HUD : Right after take off, most of pilots turn on the autopilot. In flight, if they want to change the attitude of the aircraft, for small changes they use the trim joystick and for big changes they press the trigger on the hotas, pass through the AP, change the altitude/heading and release the trigger. Like this, the plane is very stable and the trim always good. Because the plane is naturally instable, this is how the AP have to be manage to get a stable plane. When the AP is OFF, the pilot have to manage the trim manually (even if it is a FBW plane). What's more, on that kind of plane, the main task of the pilot is to do the war, not piloting. That's the kind of information I got and I have some others less important at this state of development. One more time, no critic in my words just information that I share with you. I know the plane is in BETA and maybe all that stuff are already known by the RAZBAM team and are going to be fix.

Hello everyone, First of all I would like to say that you guys have done fantastic job to give us one of the most beautiful and efficient aircraft from my point view. This is the first time I post on this forum just to highlight a little problem with the FBW limiter Air/Air. I spoke yesterday with a good friend, which was a M-2000C french pilot 10 years ago, about the FBW limiter switch. The basic config for Air/Air combat with the M2000C is 2*Magics, 2*S530 and the central fuel tank. During the flight, the pilot never touches the FBW limiter and most of the time the switch is managing by the ground crew following the config (Air/Air or Ground) before the flight. I have read on the forum that the FBW limiter can be switch on A/A position only when the center fuel tank is empty, but it is wrong. There is 100% of chance that the M-2000C can support 9Gs with a full central fuel tank, 2 Magics and 2 S530. Maybe this problem will be corrected in the futur or maybe there are some others technical constraints with the code to simulate the difference between the center fuel tank and bombs on this payload but this is how it works in real life :thumbup:. I can get a lot of more informations on this plane and on how it is used in real life if you guys are interested. Cheers