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yep thats what I meant, I read somewhere that 100c will shut it down, you should never exceed 85c for any period of time. Im still plugging away, going to tweak the vid card next a little and see if I can get to the 21k mark! I am so close to the 20k mark right now. I am going to take tonight and do a little wire management on the box and make sure the airflow is good in it before I start pushing it again. The max temp I have seen on the cpu while pushing was 64C yesterday. One thing to note, I have been testing with the Shooting Range mission, and just for fun I brought up a blank mission when I had it clocked to 3.6......90 FPS in the pit!!...and in the 120-130's outside....It was incredible. Like was mentioned before, a heavy mission has alot to do with the FPS. Still playin, will post back when I get over the 20k mark in 3dmark06. Just a little more tweaking and I am sure I will get it. PS. I don't think I could sleep with Prime95 running lol, I'd be afraid of the same scenario, wake up and see your brand new cpu smoldering hehehe. Thanks again

one more update and Im goin to bed lol, work is just 6hrs from now :sleep: I turned HT off in the bios, and messed around with e-leet a bit and got a 3dmark06 score of 19806....a far cry from my 11200 on the old rig......I'm smilin!

Just to update, tonight I have been playing with the settings and have a good steady 3.6 overclock I believe. I ran prime95 for about an hour, temps are in the 60-62C range with no errors so far, no bsod's or lockups. shutdown temp on this is 100c, so I have plenty of clearance right now with the 3.6. I will run this probably overnight tomorrow night and see what happens. Ethereal I read the same thing this evening about having HT enabled, so I will probably tomorrow sometime turn it off and do a comparison on fps's using the same missions and settings. And definately Slayer....I have no idea why, but when I set NVidia to 16x aa and 16xaf, I get more fps than with 8xaa and 8xaf. Strange, but it is faster....... I shot a video of me putting this thing together and going to shoot some of the testing with it, hopefully in a few days/week or so, I will get a chance to put the vid together and get it up on youtube or somewhere. I will post the linky when I get it done. Thanks to you guys for the help...I really found what I was after, and it is working awesome now!!

Thanks guys for more input. I think I will definately do alot of reading and understanding before I start playing with this, and I really want to play it safe and not melt my new components :megalol: . I will see if I can grab Prime95 and 3dmark just to see what the numbers are. Really, the box is pretty powerful without pushing it any, it -way- outperforms my q6600/8800gts.....it is so smooth now it is just like flying a new sim. Gone are the noticable freezes and lagginess. Heck even in FSX I noticed that the turbulance was shaking the plane a little, I had never noticed that before. Appreciate everybody's input in this....just glad that you helped me figure this out, because I just couldn't believe I spent almost $3g in hardware and got 15fps! Thanks!!

Thanks Ethereal, appreciate the link. I checked with EVGA on their site and yes that is why they came out with the updated bios because before it only went to 1333mhz and the dominators support 1600, so I am leaving it set to the 1600. I have so so much to learn about all this overclocking, I am going to start by giving your link a read through. You know that kinda makes sense, why would EVGA put an option in their bios to overclock as well as give you software to do it if they didn't mean for you to overclock? Same thing with their video card i have. The utility that comes with it has the sliders to increase the clock/mem speed. I guess it is ok to do this as long as I keep a big eye on temps and don't do nothing way out of the ordinary. You know I have been messing around with computers for some time and I kinda laughed when I saw the dominator memory, it had heat sinks on the chips lol....I guess they are meant to be pushed a little -) Thanks again

hitman, slayer and mkee... First up, thanks alot for all the input and replies, this is helping me alot! I tinkered a little last night (before I saw mckee's post...now I'm wonderin if I should just leave it at stock hehehe) and first got the memory up to the correct speed. The bios that I flashed with opens up the mem speed on the board to support the 1600mhz. It changed to the correct mhz with no issues at all. Rebooted and tested with the same mission, and I saw a slight increase in speed, maybe about 2 fps. I believe I hit around 56fps. The mission I am using is the Shooting Range. I tried a few more missions at the above settings and saw that some were slightly higher, some were not. Make sense about testing with something that is not packed with triggers! I will get a bare mission and try it tonight to see the difference. Next I thought I would try to overclock a little just to see what happens. There is a cool little feature in the EVGA x58 bios called "dummy o.c.". I read up on it and it pretty much will give you a stable 3.6ghz without having to manually change any settings. I do want to manually change them once I figure out everything, there is a lot to learn before doing this lol. So I booted back into vista, ran the e-leet program and the computer properties both said I was at 3.6ghz with 1600mhz memory. coolness. I also went into NVidia and cranked the AA and AF all the way up to 16x for both. Went back into the same mission and hit 65-68 fps in the pit, anywheres from 90 to 130 outside! Wow what a difference! It was sooooo smooth flying at those fps's...I could tell a big difference than when I first had the issue. I also tried one of the other missions that I found on the site, I think the title was Day One...a basic mission with not a lot of stuff in it. fps in the pit was a steady 75........ I think I will probably leave it at 3.6 for now, don't want to go too extreme with it. I do have an ultra 120 (TRUE) air cooler and temps on the cpu were around 48C after being in the mission for about 20 mins. Thanks again for all the help...this has solved the issue!

Thanks hitman for that link, I am all new to this overclocking stuff and gonna give it a go and see what happens! I surely will see an increase in performance. I will post back and let ya know how it goes, might take me a bit of reading to figure everything out but will let ya know. Thanks again to all in this thread for the help!

Ethereal, thanks for that information! I got to looking over at evga as well and there is somebody who has the same situation, his memory detected at 1030mhz, but he is running the dominators just as I am. I will probably get a chance after work to mess around with the clock on the memory, and hopefully the board will adjust the timings for me. I will take your advise and step it slowly and check results. Will post back and let you know how this goes. Hitman, I agree (hate to say that) with ya, although I got it going to the mid 50's in the pit, I still think it ought to be a little more than that considering what I have. What mission are you running when you check your machine? I will try tonight to go back and set full AA and AF, all graphics up and see what I get in the same mission. I saw you have an oc'd 920....how much mem and what vid card do you have? Thanks!

One quick question about something I noticed. While cruising in the bios, I saw the mem timing set to 1333mhz. I have the corsair dominator that says 1600 on the box. would it hurt or gain anything by changing that in bios to 1600? Thanks

Holy mother of god...LOL...I hit 54.1 FPS in the pit!!!! Ahhhhh....now its actin like it should!!! Here is what I did: Took Kuky's advise and turned down the distance draw to medium, tried it again, that helped a bit more...I actually hit 30 fps there. Mirrors are off, water is off. That Shval is definately noticable in the fps hits as well, turned it down to 512 for now. Tried it again, now in the mid 30's in the pit. Next up I tried fiddling with AA and AF. I turned it down to AA4x, AF8x, with no real speedup or difference. Cranked that back up to AA8XQ, AF16X, same frames there....... I think the biggest jump I saw is with the manual Set Affinity. Thanks Dragon!!! For some reason when I used prifinitty and dcs affinity tool, neither before would give me much difference. dcs affinity tool gave some error about not supporting 8 cores, then it would show a strange error on line -1? window that would pop up. Prifinity for some reason, would not stick the settings. I would set it to cores 0-7 and high priority, then save it, set to auto. When I got in BS, I saw that DCS was set to just the 0 core (single). Not sure what was going on with either of those... But I got it to stick using Task Manager. Fired up DCS again and then when I was in the mission, jumped out, set affinity to cores 0-7 (all) and back in. Saw it go from 30fps to 54.1!! Then zoomed in a little (I was all the way wide) and I hit 62 fps.....WOW!!! I got over 100fps in outside view zoomed back a little as well....... Thanks so much for everybody's help.... I just thought it was something I didn't have set right in the sim or on the box....... That made a tremendous difference. No more jerking/lag either! Woot..... (now maybe one day I will put that e-leet overclocking tool to use lol) Thanks again

Lemme give that a go.....post back in a few mins..... Thanks Dragon

And Kuky too! Thanks for the reply. I set DCS to no mirrors, AA to 4x, AF to 8x and that helped quite a bit but still not as much as I think it should...or maybe Im thinkin wrong lol. I am now up to 23 fps in the pit unpaused in the shooting range mission. I think if I saw 30fps I would cry at this point LOL.... Anyways, that helped a bunch...just still feels like to me that something is keeping this beast from unleashing it's power! Thanks again

Slayer and Hitman, thanks for the replies. I first tried setting the texture to 512 instead of 1024 every frame, and it helped...very little...I saw maybe a frame or 2 at the most better. I checked the water and it was set to high, and still just a little bit of difference, I am seeing now about 18fps in the pit in the shooting range mission. Blah! lol......BS is set to full screen. I unchecked this and got out of BS, back in and set it to full screen. Back out and back in just to see if the setting stuck, it is showing and displaying fullscreen. I tried both Prifinitty and the dcs black shark affinity programs, the dcs bs affinity gives me an error about not supporting 8 cores -), but I see hardly anything with either program when running those, I may get lucky and hit 20 fps.......-( As far as the NVidia settings and stuff, I got the latest driver from evga and installed it again, no change, it was the same as I had (182.06). Next up I checked my nvidia control panel. I have not set a profile for the game, I just changed my default settings under that. The things that I changed were: disable vertical sync, antialiasing is set to 8XQ and force it on the application, and Anistrophy is set to 16x. Thats the only things I have changed and that is what I had it set to on my old box. Not sure if I am doing something wrong there? And lastly...the BIOS and processor. I checked the EVGA E-LEET software that came with the x58 board, and have the latest bios upgrade from evga. E-LEET says its an i-965 running at 3.20ghz, and checking under task manager it shows all 8 cores with hardly nothing using the memory or processor. When I run BS, however, it shows about 16% processor usage. Not sure if that is right or not. I took a look in the power management section of BIOS for the CPU throttling settings, could not find anything mentioning the TM1 or 2 or cpu throttling....However, I found some rather interesting stuff in the Frequency/Voltage control section. Maybe something is not set right here?? Here is what is listed: Dummy O.C.=Disabled (I have no idea what dummy overclock means or is, I will see if I can find this on the EVGA forum...it is an X58 3XSLI board). Extreme Cooling=Disabled (I am not overclocking anything....new build, want to let it settle a bit before I try anything lol) Memory Control Setting=Enabled Memory Frequency=Auto Channel Interleave Setting=6 way Memory Low Gap=Auto All the next are set to AUTO: tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS,tRFC, Command Rate, tRRD, tFAW, tRTP, tWR, Round Trip Latency, tddWrTRd, tdrWrTRd, tsrWrTRd,tddRdTWr,tdrRdTWr,tsrRdTWr,tddRdTRd,tdrRdTRd,tsrRdTRd,tddWrTWr,tdrWrTWr,tsrWrTWr. Voltage Control: EVGA VDroop Control=With VDroop CPU VCore, CPU VTT Voltage, CPU PLL Vcore, DIMM Voltage all are set AUTO. DIMM DQ Vref=+0mV QPI PLL VCore, IOH VCore, IOH/ICH I/O Voltage, ICH VCore all set to AUTO. PWM Frequency=800 KHz. CPU Feature: <This is interesting....... Intel Speed Step=Disabled.....<--should this be enabled? Turbo Mode Function=Enabled CxE Function= DIsabled Execute Disable Bit=Enabled Virtualization Technology=Disabled Intel HT Technology=Enabled Active Processor Cores=All QPI Control settings and QPI Link Fast Mode=Enabled QPI Frequency Selection=Auto CPU Clock Ratio=24X CPU Host Frequency=133 MCH Strap and CPU Uncore Frequency both set to Auto Spread Spectrum=Disabled PCIE Frequency Mhz=100 Hate to make this a LONNNNNNNNG reply, I just have no idea about what all those things are in the BIOS, and really afraid to touch anything since it is brand new....I don't know alot about overclocking and all those settings....... But maybe someone can spot something that is set wrong? BTW, it is an i7-965 extreme on an EVGA X-58 3XSLI board, with the SZ1N (latest) bios from evga. I flashed it the first night I put it together. Flashed with no errors. Thanks for helping!

Hi I have been enjoying the heck out of dcs...so much so that I built a new system for it. I had a Q6600 at 2.4ghz, an 8800gts 640mb running xp pro. I would average 18-20 fps in the pit in the shooting range mission. I built an i7-965 extreme, 6 gigs corsair dominator, gtx285 1gb with vista ultimate 64 bit. Now with the same mission, same gfx settings, I am getting a whopping 15fps on average. lol. Here is what I have on the new system, maybe someone can spot something? i7-965 extreme. 6gigs corsair dominator. evga gtx285 1gb. sb extreme music, vista ultimate. All drivers on motherboard, vid card and sound card are the latest out there. I have tried the prifinitty and dcs affinity tool, it actually makes the fps worse.... In the game everything is set to high, which I should be able to run. mirrors are on, water is on high (yea I know its an fps killer, but my old rig would do faster than this one with water high), 1024 on the cockpit textures...everything max. In Flight Sim X, for example, I had most of my sliders set on about 75%, a little above normal but no way I could run max, I usually got around 25fps on an average. Now with the new system, I get probably 50-60fps, with everything as max as it will go. First person shooters are in the 90's to 100 whatevers lol, so I'm thinking this must be something I don't have set right in BS? Not sure..... vid card settings are set to aa 8xQ, anis is set to 16x, no verticle sync. Tried changing to vericle sync, no change in BS..... Anyone have an idea? I think with what hardware I have I should be seeing 40-50fps without issues in this sim. Thanks for the help

I went to the lockon.ru site and saw the new key listed. I was able to activate the product. Thank you

Well I was considering that but the point is you buy something you ought to be able to install it without having to re purchase it all the time..... Anyways, Taz, thanks for at least getting back to me, but I still have nothing in my email. I have checked all my email accounts, there is nothing there from ED. I even tried sending a test mail to each account and they are working the way they should. Nothing in the junk mail folders either. When did it get sent? Thanks

I hate to be a pain in the a$$ but I have been sending emails for a straight week and have not gotten a response from ED. I am the owner of LockOn 1.1 expansion, and I am unable to activate it. I just built a new computer and it says on the site that I have one activation left. My user name on the site is viper3two. Can somebody PLEASE fix this? I also own BlackShark but it reinstalled/activated with no issues. Product is LockOn 1.12, user name is viper3two. It says that I have exceeded the number of installs for this license, although it says that I have one activation left on the site, lockon.ru. Thank you The email adds I used were support@lockon.ru, and activation@lockon.ru.

.....well...... Admins you can close this thread as needed. I got home after working all day and it activated just fine. Im gonna toss this one up as Vista probably being silly...who knows, but it's working. Thank you

Hello My pc crashed and I put together a new pc. I was able to activate BS this weekend just fine. Well, vista 64 is giving me a lot of issues, so I decided to wipe it out and reload it again. I was able to deactivate it fine before I wiped the operating system and disk. Now I reloaded this morning, and put in my serial number:activation code. It kept saying activation failed. Thought I was entering wrong serial number, but I tried 4 more times, it keeps failing. What can I do at this point? Best I recall I had like 4 activations left. Thank you

agree with that, they must not be simmers......

coolie....I am running on xp sp3 as well, haven't taken the vista plunge yet... let me know how that reinstall went.... Thanks

maybe if you are running vista, try running it as administrator? I dont run vista, just a thought...not sure on this one...... T

Thank you!! No wonder I couldn't open it. I just installed the cd that came with it....since it was new I figured it was current. That fixed the problem, I appreciate the help!!

Seems when I open the profiler, it is looking for a .dat file, not the .pr0 file....that is my problem. Where is the .dat file? Or better yet, if I had the .dat in the .zip along with the .pr0, it would probably work....thats why I can't load I do believe...... Thanks for the help......

Thanks appreciate it. I have seen a post at simhq with a setup very similar and they are running 60-100 fps at 19x12, full settings..... thats pretty awesome, just wondering what you guys run at as well. Thanks again.