Swany

So, it looks like they tuned the Deferred Shading. Colors a bit different. They also fixed SOMETHING. I couldn't play AT ALL without it freezing the game solid. I've now flown several free flight a campaign missions and, knock on wood, it hasn't locked up yet. So it's more than just an "admin" change ;) Loving it!

So, they pushed an update that's not in the "news" section. I THINK they turned the Deferred Shading down or off. Things are a little "washed out" looking..Colors aren't as bright, etc. But, it doesn't look as bad as the release does when you turn DS off there - HOWEVER - With all that said...She's studdered a lot for me but DID NOT FREEZE as of yet, so, yay team! Now I'll try and run my campaign and get to the point where it locks up and see what happens! Fingers crossed!

I haven't shut it off, but I minimized my head movement. That's when the game ran at one of it's best points, until I spun the Huey around and it was forced to load a lot of visuals. then it locked up So, I'm on a fixed swap now because of this problem, it was one of the things I tried. It's on the SSD Yeah, all cores run by default. I even tried running every other one as suggested in an old thread. I also tried changing the priority around. None of it helped. I'll give that thread a read! Thanks for the additional ideas!

I could reload it, but haven't because it happens in other modules as well (Spitfire, P-51D) Again, thanks for taking the time to help.

so, just flew for about an hour and half (free flight, UH-1H). Went smooth except for - Every time I'd start flipping through the ADF freq's, it's lock for a split second when it would come across a used freq or when leaving a used one. And then the landing - As SOON as I started to spin the huey while at hover, it locked up. So it HAS to have something to do with when it's loading stuff

Not single screen and not without TrackHat (competitor to TrackIR). However, I have started minimizing how much I move my head, and like RedShoes from last year, it's helped. Frag, really do appreciate you taking the time (and words of encouragement) to help. I really want to love this game, and for the most part I do. It's beautiful, I get to fly the Huey, something I've wanted to do for 40+ years (and it's wonderful eye candy!)

No third party apps outside of what you get from DCS's website (IE, the UH-1H Huey) I've done the repair/update/delete fxo/meta folders AV is Microsofts built in All drivers are up to date It's definitely something within the game. I realize a lot of people play with little to no problems, but there's also a lot who have the same problems I'm having. DCS is also the only one that causes my screen saver to stop working. I can run anything else installed on my system, ANYTHING - Game, video, web based, etc etc - and the screen saver works fine. If I run DCS, the screen saver will not run again until I reboot my system. Nor will my system go to sleep after the specified time. There is something WAY wrong with DCS

This is the latest dcs.log file after my last crash last night dcs.log.txt

No, no stuttering (though I get that too, a lot). This is straight up freeze. Doesn't move. I have to use Task Manager to kill it or wait for the Not Responding error to kill it. The last audio thing to play will keep playing, never stopping. If it's a voice over, the voice over plays, then stops, and just the plane/jet/helicopter running sound goes, and that's it. I've checked it when it's freezing - System reports roughly 11-12% CPU usage and very little memory. It'll move the CPU usage up and down, which is odd, program is acting like it's still running, but it's not.

Ok, semi-necro thread, I know, but I'm bringing it back up because everything RedShoes is saying happened to him in 2.1.1 is happening to me in 2.5.0 release and 2.5.1 open beta. RedShoes, you still out there? Did things ever get better for you? I've done pretty much all the same testing you did with all the same results. The only difference between you and I is you state that some of your freezes would unfreeze after 3-30 seconds. Mine never does. Once frozen, all the way frozen. I have to Task Manager it to kill it or wait for the System Not Responding error to close it that way. Doesn't matter what I'm flying or what map I'm on - It freezes air frame, every map Here's my thread https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=208163

So, Preload Radius is almost off, and MSAA is off....no help there either

Only because I ran across it in a forum that said to turn it off for troubleshooting to see if it helps. I agree with you wholeheartedly - While my machine isn't "uber", it's spec'ed out really well and shouldn't give me any issues, and it doesn't in any other game, only in DCS Here's my post on the freeze itself https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=208163

MSAA is set to 2x Gave deleting those a shot, and the game did run longer, but then froze up again. Not sure if it was coincidence or not

They did not say, sorry. My machine isn't "uber", but it's a pretty good machine. It can run any of my other sims/games at high and ultra high settings without much problem (iRacing, Elite Dangerous, Far Cry 5, Witcher 3, etc). The only thing I'm really down on is an SSD for gaming. So, as an added note, I was reading about turning off deferred shading to help - In the release version, I can confirm, it did NOT help. Froze within minutes

So, I had a few minutes while the wife was getting ready. Turning off the deferred shading did NOT help. Crashed within minutes :/

Snacko, thank you! I'm not worried about sending keystrokes (as of yet). I'm really just wanting some gauges displayed so I'm not always looking down in-game. The tft's are just below my monitors so I can just move my eyes down and not move my head unless I have to. And so I can zoom in on just the gauges and not the entire game

As a matter of fact, yeah, I am. I went to that when the release version just wouldn't work for me. So it's an in-game setting? If open beta doesn't have it, would explain why I wasn't seeing it! Thanks. I'll go look in the release version :) **EDIT** Yup, sure enough, it's in the release but not the beta. I don't have time to test it now (getting ready for a family get together for the wife). I'll switch back into the release and turn that off and see how the game goes. Thank's for the tip razo+r, it's much appreciated! Swany

Ok, did another clean and repair (tried that before, but didn't know about deleting/renaming the fxo and meta folders). I dont' know if it helped, or it was just a coincidence, but the game ran longer than usual - and then locked up. I finally got a reply from DCS/ED - They said they put out a fix for testing in the latest openbeta 2.5.1 - I'm running the open beta 2.5.1 and that's where my freezes are coming from as of late (I went to open beta a few days ago trying to see if it would help with the freezes in 2.5.0 release) - So that's not helping. They had me send them my dxdiag.txt file

lazduc, thank you for responding. Really do appreciate it. I did try putting it on my SSD for a while and it didn't help. I use full screen without vsync since I have gsync. I haven't turned on the FPS viewer since it runs smooth until I run into the problem, so amount of FPS I'm not concerned about until I can get the freeze fixed. I don't do multiplayer as of yet so I can't speak about that

I'm fighting a freezing problem in DCS. I've done everything I've read (at least, I think I have), but I'm reading things about turning off deferred shading. I have an nVidia 1080Ti with latest drivers as of 11 May. I've gone through everything, I cannot find any settings that say "Deferred Shading". Am I missing it? Looking in the wrong place? Looking for the wrong thing? Is it actually a combination of a few things to make up DS? I keep reading things that don't, to ME, explain very well. Everyione always seems to post with an assumption that everyone else already understands everything - Some of us don't. We try to RTFM, but sometimes either can't find TFM, or don't understand it, because again, we're not borne with the knowledge. I've googled like crazy, and I find TONS of info ABOUT Deferred Shading, but nothing that says "Go here and look for this option, turn it on/off/change-to-this-setting"

No one has any thoughts? Everyone agrees then that I edited the right things and there's nothing left to try?

So, being very new to DCS, I'm still learning about everything. I do not fly the KA, A10, etc. Pretty much just the old warbirds and the Huey. I've seen CPT Zeen's profiles, but, what I'm wanting to know is if - 1) Is Helios still up to date? Going to the site, doesn't look like it's been updated for a long time 2) Outside CPT Z's profiles, can you build your own? IE - What I'm after is I have a couple of little 7" TFT screens that I want to display only a couple of the gauges off the Huey (or even the P51). Are you easily able to just build what you want? 3) and most importantly, if it's still a viable program, are there any guides? can't find any beyond the "Install Helios, and click this and that to make your A10/KA50/Pre-supported aircrat". Can't find anything about custom doing your own thing

So, go ahead, treat me like I'm dumb - I'm new to DCS, and yes, I've Googled, I've forum searched, I've YouTubed, etc etc, and can't seem to find that "trick" that everyone else has Specs i7 8700k @3.7 (not OC'd) 1080Ti w/ 12GB, latest nVidia drivers as of 10 May 2018 16GB Mem (don't remember speed) 32GB Fixed size swap file OS is on a SSD, game is on a 7200RPM HDD (SSD doesn't have enough room) Windows 10, patched to latest TrackHat IR with OpenTrack (the one setup for it) Triple Dell S2716DG's in nVidia Surround Use Notepad++ ver 7.5.6 to edit LUA's It freezes, randomly. It DOES feel like it's happening when things have to load - A city comes into view, I spin my head quickly, etc My problem is in both 2.5 release and 2.5.1 beta. I mainly fly the UH-1H, so it happens a lot there, but I've bumped into it a bit in the TF-51 and P-51. I've tried the nVidia control panel setting the Pre Rendered Frame to "use the 3D application" to 1, 3, or 4, high graphic settings in the game, low graphic settings, told DCS 1 screen, told it 3, tried both of those while running nVidia Surround and while NOT running Surround, I've tried setting the Field of View in the saved games DCS.openbeta\Config\View\SnapViews.lua When I try and change the FOV in the aircraft LUA itself, the aircraft vanishes out of the game, regardless of what setting I tell it. When people say set it to less than 140, is that a COMBINED total or a per monitor. In other words, is it "Change it to 120" or "Change it to 60, which will equal 120 across three screens"? No one explains that. There's a video on Youtube where a guy goes through setting it up in game, nvidia, and windows, I've tried his settings I do not know what else to try. Am I editing the right LUA files? All the answers I find contradict themselves. I would LOVE it if someone could hold my hand and say "Here, this file, this exact line" to make sure I'm doing it right. Lots of answers, again, contradict themselves, are WAY out of date, or assume you already know what you are doing/have been messing with DCS for a while. iRacing, Asseto Corsa, Elite Dangerous, etc...None of them have anywhere the difficulty of setting up trips/FOV So, to sum up, my game freezes all the time, in random locations, but has a feel as of it's duing a loading of items phase, no graphics settings I've tried seems to work. Help? ***EDIT*** I tried running it on my SSD despite space limitation - did not help ***EDIT*** Last night I tried turning the Preload Radius WAYYYY down. Less than the "half" that DCS recommends. It SEEMED to help a bit, both with stutters and with freezing, BUT, it still froze the game. Today I'm trying newer drivers from nVidia and trying to figure out this Deferred Shading thing people are saying you should try turning off? I made a post about it, but can't find the option anywhere