Raijin

Never said they lied,, go read again.. I said they were misleading.. Have a post just before the announcement saying "F14 in 2018" and then "This Winter" is misleading.. Sorry if u can't see that... My whole point was that,, I never ever said I want it now.. You alone assumed that. The discussion was about vague and misleading information provided by them.

Who said? is there a STOCK price manager, or the speculators said it?

That's how fanboys refute arguments.. evading and not addressing anything that was previously stated

Super good logic.. good luck on ur next elections

at least a pizza place can plan their delivery time....and don't call u again to change to 20-40 and then change to 40-70..

lol old enough apparently to know that age insults are not a thing anymore.. u r bad at guessing too.. yeah,, get ur dates delayed on construction and u will get a penalty, dont deliver ur project in time and it might cost ur career.. it's not about patience, neither it comes with age,, some people are more passive, some not, that doesn't change with age. By your logic the world would be so perfect with so many "Big guys" out there, like everyone is equal,.. ur premises are so terrible that I'm sorry you are already old and might not have much time left to see how narrow ur mind is..

Yeah.. forgot that this is a lemonade stand.. let's wait...

I'm sorry, I miss the part during the announcement that they said,"I'm sorry but It's not guaranteed on 2018 anymore"

Oh man..hard to argue with a fanboy I bet you don't accept so simply that kind of behavior from other business.. You are the one struggling to understand that you are biased and no matter what they do you will defend them. I doubt that you would accept a car lease that was advertised for 2018, but when u signed the contract it says anytime between 2018 and 2019. Even if you argue that it was your fault not to read the contract, the car dealer was dishonest. And that's the whole point.. got it fanboy?

Before pre-order they said "F14 in 2018" what's ur logic for that?

Nope.. before announcement they posted on facebook "F14 in 2018" and later they deleted after the announcement.. So when they started the pre-order and said Winter, what would you think?? I'm not obligated to go through their facebook, check for deleted posts and realized everything by myself? That's the main reason people were expecting it on December? The pre-order was 2 months before winter... So it was reasonable to think that they were using those last 2 months to prepare to launch.. They were vague and misleading... My point about the lemonade stand is exactly that, not that they claimed to be, but how fanboys want other players to behave. about the timeframe... Imagine if everything you buy from now on, instead of a date, they give you season timeframes?

Winter is vague,,, https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-07-16-vague-release-dates-for-pre-orders-banned-in-germany If not, every country should. I'm not even entering in the field that you mislead people to believe that it was near release when pre-order was announced.. Winter is vague.

Oh God. another "Don't buy it" logic.. It's coz of fanboys like u things are the way they are.. this is not a lemonade stand for friends thing... "It's just a freaking game for goodness sake" right,, a game.. even freeware products have to abide by laws. And dcs modules are not free.. it's not because you decided to buy you have to accept whatever they give you.. You must be one of those guys who never complains about anything you buy apparently. Germany already banned pre-purchases with vague release dates, hope this becomes a trend. Get ur logic straight this is not a friends and family only business...

I don't think not preordering has a big impact on DCS/3rd parties. Everyone will end-up buying anyway. That's why they do what they want, like delete/edit posts, shift blame, create expectation than blame you for over-expect, give vague statements open to interpretation, mislead info, etc and in the end, it's all on you.

While the Stockholm Syndrome epidemic remains you can't expect any development. Dev's will do whatever they want, and still blame the community for their wrongdoings...

This community is so fun... all kind of weirdos (including myself).

I use odyssey+ and performance is much better,,. fps increase, text readability and enemy spotting..

set water to medium.. water on high on this update seems to be bugged

Set water to medium...apparently when u have it on high after this update it will cause that bug everytime u have water rendered in ur FOV..

reset supersampling on steam VR, to 100%, start dcs, play an instant action to make sure.. then if it works, u can close and back the supersampling for whatever value you had.. Worked for me with a samsung odyssey+ and a buddy with the vive pro

Apparently only last quotes are the only valid ones..wink wink wink kappa

ROFL

You r right, but my post was more of a joke than anything else.. nobody is listening to anybody..

so many missed points on this thread lol.. so many... wish I had some popcorn ready before starting to read this. Tips for players/customers: chill, thread tantrums don't bring modules. You best way to protest against their practices is just not buying or moving to another game.. oh wait.. there's only DCS. So... hmmm.. OK, just chill then. Tips for Devs/3rd parties/whoever involved in the development somehow: there are some free crash courses on PR and marketing on sites like coursera, you should consider take them ;) wink wink kappa.

oh man... so many things to be said and nobody to hear. just accept it. We have no options, but to accept whatever they impose to us... or leave it.