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7800X3D, 7900X3D, 7950X3D..
LucShep replied to EightyDuce's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
If it's a 7000X3D chip you want exclusively for gaming, then get the 7800X3D and avoid all the others. On the 7900X3D and 7950X3D the 3DV cache (what you want these for) is available only on one of the CCDs. -
Upgrade-resell-Trade. Reduce total cost.
LucShep replied to Thinder's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
I have to agree with others here. At such price, that DDR4 64GB mem kit is an absolute rip off. Contrast it with a 3x more affordable (£185) and pretty good DDR4 64GB kit (yes, even for AMD 5800X3D): https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/mushkin-enhanced-64gb/p/N82E16820226993?Description=MRF4U360GKKP32GX2&cm_re=MRF4U360GKKP32GX2-_-20-226-993-_-Product&quicklink=true There's also the RGB bling-bling version (£206) if you're really into that stuff: https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/mushkin-enhanced-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820226962?Description=MLA4C360GKKP32GX2&cm_re=MLA4C360GKKP32GX2-_-20-226-962-_-Product&quicklink=true It's Samsung B-Die DDR4 memory built for overclocking, and IIRC that one is a 4x double-rank modules kit. Very good stuff, though extremely overrated. The problem is, instead of buying the less expensive B-die 3200 CL14 quad-kits (or that far more affordable Mushkin 3600 CL16 dual-kit) and then overclocking it to 3600 CL16 tight timings (16-16-16-36) and maybe even CL14 (14-14-14-34), most people are illiterate on the matter, and have no idea how to do it at the timings and sub-timings level. So they buy the more expensive B-die 3600 CL16 (hardly available now) and, lately, the even more expensive B-die 3600 CL14, only to leave it instead at the XMP/D.O.C.P. profile "becauje Aimedee Raijen needje it for tweee perchent moar pefomanche" (yes, it's comical, has been for the last few years). So, they pay exploitative prices (these days 3x over the alternatives in fact)... Unless you're into overclocking, DDR4 3600 CL14 is a waste of money (buying a Ferrari to run around the block) also if it's just for DCS. And at the current outrageous prices of that kit variant of B.Die, I'd seriously avoid it. But that's probably just me... -
Go ahead and sell your 4090...
LucShep replied to EightyDuce's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
hmmmm.... I guess the 4090Ti 24GB at $2.900, and the rumoured RTX 4090 Titan 48GB at $5.000 price tags are next? I'm happy and will be holding what I have for a long time, but wonder sometimes what'll be the price and power consumption of the following RTX5000 series flagship launch? I guess a $6.000 price and 1800W PSU requirement for the RTX5090 would not be too unrealistic, given the sorry state of the GPU market? -
Gaawwww... that'd be so sweet. I think so too. Much as I love the more modern "C" module, and everytime I'm on it, it's the original CW-era F-16A in DCS that I keep wanting. And maybe it would have made more sense to have that instead, considering the rest of the content.
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RTX 4070 Ti DCS Benchmarks
LucShep replied to edwardbetter's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
Well, maybe next time be more generous with words and explain yourself a little better... It's a matter of checking the boxes on the parameters you want to see, right there, in Afterburner OSD options. Plenty tutorials on the web and youtube vids if you find that difficult. -
RTX 4070 Ti DCS Benchmarks
LucShep replied to edwardbetter's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
You mean the numbers on screen displaying stats (OSD, On Screen Display), I presume? If so, that's something you can arrange with a software program called RivaTuner, usually combined with MSI Afterburner. Both these two programs come in one installer. Download it only from their official webpage, avoid fake versions: https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards Among so many other ones on Youtube, here are a couple video tutorial guides on Afterburner+Rivatuner, to get in-game OSD: -
That is a wrong assumption. All hardware is meant to run in at lower than 45ºC environment temp for long-term reliability. If pushing CPU, GPU, RAM and storage components, you can not ensure that in an enclosed case without fans, even with a spacious High-Tower case. Unless you use an open-bench in mild temp room, or fit such a case in a freezing AC'ed closed room (like its done for servers), it's a pretty bad advice to tell other fellow users (likely missing experience) to not use cooling fans in a PC case. You need cooling fans in enclosed cases with modern mid to high end systems. The "few fans" with correct airflow, pulling in cold-air and pushing out hot-air, do work a treat. What you really, really need to avoid is the el-cheapo bling-bling crap they try to sell you as if it's something nice to have (newsflash - it isn't). Tight on a budget and need fans for your case? Arctic P12 or P14, or Noiseblocker XL2, are great options. Contrary to the impossible rule, they're very cheap, reliable and effective.
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While I'd usually agree with the "keep it as a backup" opinion, this time I'd like to offer a different perspective. ....I bought my TM Warthog, used (2nd or even 3rd hand, don't know and don't care), from a fellow member of this forum, and have been very happy with it. So, I'd say to at least consider at some point to sell yours, to a friend or a forum member in here, as most likely you'll make someone like-minded really happy with it.
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DDR5 prices in steady free fall...
LucShep replied to EightyDuce's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
I have to agree, if buiding a rig from scratch right now, then DDR5 is the way, be it AMD Ryzen 7XXX or Intel 13th gen. The only reason I can think not to go for DDR5 is if you're updating a DDR4 system, for example a CPU upgrade on a good DDR4 mem + mobo platform you already own, or if willing to reuse a good kit of DDR4 64GB that you may be already in posession of. You have to understand that the latency issue of DDR5 was mostly mentioned for the initial kits (4600 to 5200 and CL40+, etc), it's no longer an issue these days with higher speeds and lower latency newest kits, no more than it was for DDR4 in relation to DDR3, and that one over the previous, etc. What really, really sucks is the motherboards pricing, for both AMD and Intel newest chips rocking DDR5. Any good "budget" mobo now goes over 300€ (ouch!). After over a year of DDR5 introduction on the market, we got to a point where DDR5 6400 CL32 is cheaper than B-Die DDR4 3600 CL16, and performance of the former is better in 99,9% of gaming situations (although not by a lot), whatever game/sim you throw at them. The gains with memory speed are noticeable, just like previously happened with DDR4, DDR3 and DDR2 over their previous iterations. And it'll only get better from here on. -
Need advice for PC build ...
LucShep replied to Deacon Frost's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
700$ ?!?! My dude, for 700$ you can't even get a sole RTX3080, much less one with a kickass 11700K, motherboard and 32GB RAM on top! JUST GET THAT RIG NAAUUU (...and worry about possible upgrades later, that's definitely worth it!) -
Need advice for PC build ...
LucShep replied to Deacon Frost's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
Welcome! It really depends on price, and if VR is something you really want to get into. For a single monitor at 1440P (2560x1440) and even 4K (3840x2160) resolution at high settings, that "i7 11700k, 32Gb 3200 Ram, Rtx 3080" combo will absolutely kick ass. That is still a very potent and up-to-date system. Yes there is newer and faster hardware combinations, but you may have to pay a LOT(!) more if buying new, merely to notice differences in performance increase, at all, over that. So, if the price is right (depending where that friendly price is really "friendly"), it might translate into very heavy savings and be a great option for you. The thing is, you mention VR is in the cards... And perhaps later you'll also want to use it in online Multiplayer... If you're aware of the poor optimisation of DCS, you may also know that, for VR and online Multiplayer, things get even worse and requirements become pretty steep (even more). Here, you'll want the biggest baddest Nvidia GPU you can afford (RTX4080 is a great choice then) to brute force your way into the smoothest experience. You'll also want 64GB of RAM, as any busy and populated server will fill 32GB of RAM very fast. (side note: remember to increase the Windows pagefile to 32GB) If in the end you decide to invest in a completely new rig from scratch, I'd recommend to wait for the new Ryzen 7800X3D (8c/16t) to be reviewed and released, as over 30% performance increase is rumoured, over the 5800X3D (which is still very good but to be discontinued - AMD AM4 socket platform is now dead). Of course, the new Ryzen 7800X3D willl require different motherboard (AMD AM5 socket, B650 or X670) and different memory (DDR5 6000 CL30 or whereabouts), both of which are much newer and dearer, but it may be well worth it in the longer run. -
5800x3d on a MSI B350 Tomahawk
LucShep replied to blewis's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
Although not ideal, yes, it's ok to run the Ryzen 7 5800X3D on a MSI B350 Tomahawk with updated BIOS to support it. The caveat is, while very capable, that motherboard's VRMs may get toasty with that specific processor, so better make sure your PC case is really well ventilated (or get a fan blowing air onto that motherboard's VRMs). That said, either the Ryzen 5 5600X or Ryzen 7 5700X are a better match to the MSI B350 Tomahawk (perfect with that motherboard?), and are also far cheaper. So, it's much easier to recommend either of these in such case, for an excelent upgrade (interim or not), and without breaking the bank. I'd say even if using an RTX 4090. FWIW, it's been tried and tested by Steven Walton (TechSpot website and HardwareUnboxed youtube star). Here's the article: https://www.techspot.com/review/2475-ryzen-5800x3d-older-am4-motherboards/ -
Well, there's more than just airflow and filters, even if those are very significant aspects when choosing a case. Quality of construction, the internal layout, spacings and extra room for cable management and peripherals, plus other little details (side panel fittings, screws fitting, PSU, SSD, HDD and filters mounting/dismounting ease, front panel and respective cables quality) are all aspects that are worth the extra money when you're building or doing maintenance with a pretty expensive system. Build two identical systems, one in an el-cheapo garbage case, and the other on a top quality contender case, you'll notice huge differences 100% sure.
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The "budget" segment for PC cases is filled with pure garbage, such as those CM Q300L and Q500L -they're awful- and most of Zalman's cheapest stuff. There are far better options for little more money. Aim for at least 70$ budget just for the PC case (which will also have fans included) and you'll be much better served, more so for the longer term. Probably the best option right now in the "budget" segment for PC Cases: Montech X3 Mesh - https://www.montechpc.com/en/products_detail.php?nid=229&s_ok2= Other great options in same segment, though for these you'll have to buy and install 120mm fans separately into the front and/or rear: Phanteks Eclipse P300A - https://www.phanteks.com/Eclipse-P300A.html Phanteks Eclipse P360A - https://www.phanteks.com/Eclipse-P360A.html Silverstone FARA R1 - https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/FARAR1/ The downside with cases in the "budget" segment is, for the most part, their front to back size. Most of the available lower priced models are unable to fit a GPU inside with more than 305mm of lenght (only a few allow 355mm or bigger clearance for GPUs), so take your own GPU length measure into account when choosing one of these for your system. Lastly, if your budget is tight and looking for a CPU cooler for your Ryzen 5XXX CPU, then the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 is a phenomenal option at just $40. It's a dual tower (+ dual fans) six heatpipes air-cooler, capable of handling 200W+, so it has room to mess about with OC, PBO and etc if ever desired - even on a 5800X3D.
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Try one of these (or similar) on your RTX3090 (non Ti) using MSI Afterburner: 1785 Mhz core frequency @ 825mv or 1800 Mhz core frequency @ 831mv or 1815 Mhz core frequency @ 837mv or 1830 Mhz core frequency @ 843mv or 1845 Mhz core frequency @ 850mv If necessary to adjust core values for whatever reason, decrease/increase in steps of 15 Mhz, in the core clocks graph curve of MSI Afterburner. In addition, you can also safely overclock your memory up to 1312 Mhz (that's 20.992 Gbps effective). Which translates to +748 in the memory value setting in MSI Afterburner. Note that the stock memory is 1219 Mhz (19.5 Gbps effective). So, doing this adjustment in the memory puts it right in the ballpark for what the Micron GDDR6X memory in the RTX3090 is rated for from factory (21.0 Gbps effective) - good gains added, no stability issues. From there on, it's all diminishing returns. The undervolting core frequency values won't differ much (if at all) from one specific model of RTX3090 to another. At least for my EVGA RTX3090 FTW Ultra, those values are certainly the sweetest spot (fully stable, cool and performant) that I've stress tested, among so many other combinations, in benchmarks and games (including DCS). Expect very small but noticeable performance gains (~5%), all the while you're running far lower voltage (~100W less) and quite a bit cooler (over 10ºC cooler). For example, with Heaven Benchmark @1080P Ultra... All stock settings: score 5980 (+/-), 430W peak GPU Power, 90ºC Mem Junction temp (highest overall temp) After Undervolting: score 6190 (+), 340W peak GPU Power, 78ºC Mem Junction temp (highest overall temp) - 1830 core / 1312 mem @ 843mv It's a "Win Win" !! FWIW, a very quick tutorial on "how to undervolt":
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Hello Any news, any progress?
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AMD 7 series X3D announced
LucShep replied to AngleOff66's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
Yes, I think so too. Either Intel 13th gen (13600K/KF especially) with 64GB DDR4 3600 C16/C18 and Z790 D4 mobo, or AM4 5800X3D with 64GB DDR4 3600 C14/C16 and B550/X570 mobo, still seems the way to go, bang for buck. -
Is this the end of a glorious tool ? MSI Afterburner
LucShep replied to BitMaster's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
Agreed, that's not good at all. Countless gamers, reviewers, overclockers, system builders/repairers and, I suspect, even manufacturers, all use Afterburner or something derived from it. Alexey Nicolaychuk is a small genious, and one we all have a lot to be very thankful. Unfortunately, he's one more victim of this stupid war (as all wars are). I've been using RivaTuner since 2005, and MSI Afterburner since 2011 (also EVGA PrecisionX, back then was basically same thing with different skin, before their split in 2014). It's one of those tools that I always use no matter what GPU I install, be it in my systems or of friends, or of customers. Would be sad to see this tool stagnate or, even worse, abandoned then disappearing. -
CPU limited worth getting a 4090?
LucShep replied to Baltic Pirate's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
+1 (Ditto). -
RTX 4070 Ti DCS Benchmarks
LucShep replied to edwardbetter's topic in PC Hardware and Related Software
It's already been said in reviews, with some degree of proof through benchmarks, that the RTX4070Ti is a bit disapointing in 4K resolution (when compared to the closest competicion) due to smaller bandwidth (memory bus) being 192-bit. Which means same will apply for VR. Previous gen models, to which it has been compared with, like the RTX3080/Ti and RTX3090/Ti, are 384-bit, which can make a little difference for smoother framerate and frametimes. But then these eat much more wattage in power consumption if compared (RTX4070Ti is very good in that, must be said). If your priority is VR with details cranked higher on such a demanding game like DCS, maybe bite the bullet and get an RTX4080 16GB, or even RTX4090 24GB if budget can go that far... Personally, I went for a used RTX3090 (using 4K/60Hz here) and cost was far, far less than any brand new GPU of similar performance, certainly don't regret it. -
I also agree that Xbox Controller may be the best "cheap" solution. If you want something more "flight sim" specific, you'll have to look around. Here's some "button boxes" that might be desireable: https://www.black-hog.com/shop/ https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/gnx-sem-side-extension-module/ https://totalcontrols.eu/product/multi-function-button-box/ https://virpil-controls.eu/shop/control-panels.html https://www.etsy.com/search?explicit=1&q=pc+flight+sim++button+box&order=price_asc
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Free 2080 TI, but you pay for shpping. No other strings attached.
LucShep replied to hansangb's topic in Virtual Reality
That's a really generous atitude, and one that should not pass unnoticed to anyone in here looking for a great GPU like that one you're providing. Hats off to you, sir! -
ED never disapoints with these new year videos, that was beautiful as always. This ^^ Now, this is huge and probably more antecipated than any aircraft or terrain module.