Kumabit

The aim120 behaves like the old SD10 at the launch time of the JF17 now. ED's team just slapped their own face

ED's team only cares about "their" missiles. The aim120 has been updated several times during the last two month and what did they do on the sd10? They fking nerfed it, so stupid, good marketing I guess, making the aim120 the god missile and their F18 and F16 will sell good. This is such a disrespect for the 3rd party developers

What do you mean? I don't know, I think the damage model is already preeeetty good now, much better than any other aircrafts. I hit the F-16 with my right wing so the left wing was safe, on some other aircrafts your whole aircraft would be f*cked

I tried to land the JF17 with half of the aircraft missing. How good is the flight model? Really good, the aircraft behaved exactly as I expected. Judge it by yourself :lol: Video link: ${1}

DO YOUR RESEARCH before you screaming out nonsense. Both of your missile range and fuel efficient "analysis" are just nonsecse

Looks like this guy is going to test out every single bug on the JF-17 LOL

The FF with different speed at the same altitude is NOT the same, so your FF graph is a CURVE for every aircraft and they are not the same. For your test, you need to do a integration on the FF curve with time to get the fuel consumption. Therefore, same burn time does not mean same fuel consumption. And also, you can't just assume the FF is constant and times the time to get the fuel consumption. This is NOT how this work.

If you do your research you will find SMR-95 is basicly just another name of the RD-93. That 2.2046 lb is the unit conversion from kg to lb

I think this is completely normal since they have different engine, thus different SFC. And the design of the intake and the nozzel also affect the FF because FF = SFC * Thrust, and thrust is affected by intake and nozzel. Maybe the F-18 has a better intake than the F-16 at high speed (and AFAIK it should).

So I am having some fun in SP mode since right now the lag in MP is super high. One thing I noticed is that sometimes the bandit's position on DL is way off. Note that in this mission the AWACS is not working (I havn't figure it out how to get it to work), so my radar is the only doner for the DL. In the track you can see that during the merge, the F-18 appears to be behind me on the DL but it is actually in front of me. Also there is some instances during the dogfight that the position of the bandit on DL does not match where it is on the radar. Here is the Google drive link for the trk. file since the file is 7 mb and I can't upload it here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YlRdFq2_JjSXmSFHgr_2TrxOTsM3H3wz?usp=sharing Here is another trk file JF17_002.trk

This is the new meme for the JF17 :lol: but actually I found out the voice is quite cute, I like it

For your graphs, are you flying at constant speed? If not, your graph is invalid since TSFC is also depended on speed.

Are you trying to say "value" instead of "figure"? I am just calculating the value from the resource that I can find and the current ingame SFC for JF17 seems on spot. I don't think the current SFC curve has problem. I am tired of looking at all those posts that people use their imaginary performance to fight against the dev team, and thinking all non-western aircraft should be inefficient and draggy.

I am not saying it should be more stealthy, at least they should be the same. Idk, if the value is the same, why the JF17 can be detected much easier than other aircrafts? If you fly both sides, you will notice this after several flights.

From the RD-93 specifications sheet you can find the SFC for the engine is 2.05 kg/kgf*h and the full burner thrust is 8300 kg. This is the test value with the stand along engine. After installation, the SFC will decrease by 25% and the thrust will increase by 16%. These are the value from all different website and you can easily find them. Calculating the FF from public resources: FF = SFC * 0.75 * Thrust * 1.16 * 2.2046 lb = 32634.8 lb/h Your value is 31760 lb/h, there is only 2.7% difference from your value to the real one. You still think this is unrealistic? For example check here: http://www.avia500.ru/eng/production_72 The efficiency of the engine does not only depend on the engine itself, it also depends on the inlet design and the nozzel design. If you take out all the engines and test them alone on the test stand, the newer engine might be more efficient than the older one. However, we are talking about combat aircrafts and you need to sacrifice efficiency for other performance, for example for radar cross section. If you put the GE F119 on the table, it might be more fuel efficient than all engines in DCS, however, if you take the F22, it might be less fuel efficient than a lot aircrafts in DCS since it traded in at least 20% of thrust for RCS as far as I know.

Could you tell me which switch it is? I don't know that. Thanks

I know the team is implementing the real value for the RCS, but could you consider to adjust the value to a relative value among all other aircraft? The RCS is all about detectability and now it is unrealistic that the JF17 is easier to be detected than other larger aircraft such as the F-15 and the SU-27. Maybe the value of the RCS on other aircraft is not so realistic, therefore making the JF17 easier to be detected.

I found that it seems like the radar cross section of the JF17 is too big. I can always find the JF17 first before I can find the SU27 or F16 or any other planes at the same distance and the same altitude. Please take a look into this if you have time, thanks.

Hell yeah I can see people just want their AIM120C to be a god weapon and any weapon that surplus the old AIM120C is UNREALISTIC

If you are taking about intruducing an upgraded version of the F15C, we should also get an modernized version of the Flanker. If it is the case, I am more excited about the Flanker. Danel you are wrong in EVERY aspect at the beginning of this thread. This is a FLIGHT SIMULATOR, ask yourself, should an aircraft built in 1980's have technology that only exist 20 years later??? If you want a game with "balance" in it, go play War Thunder or some other games

Any ship with weapon on it will open fire at the 802 cruise missile from miles away and distroy it miles before it get close. I don't think this is real, it is hard for a ship to find a cruise missile cruising at 25 meters above the sea level in real life

Are you also using the mini joystick to control the TDC? Could you share your key binding and your setup? Thank you

Anyone using X56 has the same problem or just me?

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvwoPEfWnR4&t=3s][/url] Here is the video to show the problem. You can see there is no problem in single player mode but not in MP mode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvwoPEfWnR4&t=3s

Are you using an analog axis or a digital axis?