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I'm confused... What's TBS from ED? Is an improved version of TFSE exclusively for military market? is a new upcoming product or what?? How much does it cost? I was seeing some videos an from what I saw DCS:BS is just a small piece of the cake :(. TBS looks awesome:D @Admins please move this post to English Black Shark forum, I posted here by mistake

Piece of cake man... I included a picture in order to show you where you must look at for the detent (the picture isn't mine) BTW I found that short cirtuiting the sidewinder's IR detector also activates the FFB... that's strange :huh: and goes against what I said before about the switch. An explanation could be that in electronics when working with digital logic some pins (inputs) can be interpreted as 1 Logic when the pin is unconnected (on the air, as we say)... That would explain why the FFB is enabled when I let the handle pcb disconnected from the main pcb... Anyway I will let this to the experts...

Average_Pilot right now I didn't have to do anything with the Hand sensor, being based on IR emitter/receptor the firmware is programmed to activate FFB motors when the IR beam is interrupted, so comparing the IR detector with a switch and when my hand is off the handle, the switch is always closed and it only opens when I put my hand on the handle... I needed to find a way to let the "switch" always open and that way is to simply let the IR detector disconnected.. I didn't connected Sidewinder Handle's pcb to its main board so th IR sensor is disconnected too... this way the FFB is always ON (until disabled by software I guess) and works just fine in DCS:BS I'm still trying to get used to fly with FFB but I'm doing my best.. anyway thanks for the advice. Renato71: Well, I think Russians will use another type of tape (just kidding) :megalol: but Yeah, as I say it looks really ugly and i definitely looking forward to put this iniside a small plastic box...:music_whistling: BTW You just remenber me a phrase that I saw in a user's signature: Americans spend 5 years to design a ball pen that is able to write on space, Russians just take a pencil... The things is: Is ugly but it works :thumbup: By disabling/enabling the throttle/afterburner did you mean mapping the afterburner separately (maybe on another axis) or did you mean removing that annoying detent that comes by default?? the first I don't know how to do it, maybe with Saitek SST... the latter is really easier... just open the trhottle and remove a small plastic detent that is behind a plastic wheel that is connect to the throttle handle... It can be do it without risk and can be reversed in case you want it again.. Regards

Renato thanks for the advice, I was thinking to do that but I'm unable to find compatible connectors for the ones used in my X52 (I was planning to make an extension) and messing with rewiring beacause those wires are too slim for my hands... in fact I broke two of then while installing the X52 Handle into Sidewinder's base! It was a pain trying to get them fix :( Fortunately the place where I hid my X52 board allows me to place the X52's push-button panel outside sidewinder's base without having to rewire anything... I used some tape to protect the push-button panel until I make a definitive base for it, looks ugly right now but it works at least :joystick: BTW... I didn't used X52's joystick base (yet) but I'm thinking about it... Regards

Hi there guys First at all, Thanks Eagle Dynamics (and all people involved in development, distribution, etc) for this awesome atack heli sim... I have an X52 Pro that I bougth long ago to replace my Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2, I love my X52 and I bought it because i wanted to have a more or less realistic and accurate throttle (I hate MS Sidewinder Throttle) but It was very sad that X52 didn´t have Force Feedback that I decided to kept my old sidewinder... my X52 works flawlessly with my Black Shark but is so annoying to have to return the joystick to its central position after using the trim that it was clear to me that Force Feedback(FF) is a must have in order to enjoy the sim... That's why I started to look for a way to add FF to my X52, I was looking so desperate that I was experimenting with some usb microcontrollers and stepper motors but not luck so far... as some people say, due X52 internal mechanisms its very difficult to attach a motor to its axes.. not at least without making mayor changes... so I coudn't use the motors of my sidewinder (or any other motor) :cry: I haven't give up yet and two days ago while surfing the web looking for videos about how black shark´s trim works when using FF... and for my surprise: The anwser to my complain hit me in the face... :doh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6jqREHPOds Another guys already did what I was trying to do.. in a different way of course. in the video's comments the autor says that a tutorial would be available on his web site... but I wasn´t able to find that tuto... Anyway, knowing that it ws possible to merge both controllers (in some way) I started to roll my own solution :D using same principle... Please see attachment for some pics What is done: - Replaced Sidewinder stick with saitek stick (X52 stick is intact, only sidewinder stick was moddified or more precisely: cut away). this in non reversible. To do: - Find a way to place the X52 main controller card inside sidewinder´s base and make some detent for the "ps2 like" connector (in order to allow connection to X52 throtle) - Relocate X52's hall sensors and magnetos in order to react to joystick movements... this way I can choose between sidewinder X, Y axes or X52... I've got an idea how to do this... based on an existing hall sensor mod I found on the web is possible to made a base for the hall sensor but I will need to cut sidewinder base. but the only cut I want to make is the one for the connector - Relocate Sidewinder's IR emitter/sensor (or replace them) in order to preserve sidewinder hability to "detect when my hand is holding the stick"... I'm thinking this is going to be tricky - Make a custom enclosure to relocate the push buttons of sidewinder stick and the six X52's push buttons (the ones in the base) -TEST, TEST and more TEST What do you think?? looking good?

Thanks for the answer...

Hi Sorry for asking but I´m unable to find the download link!! :music_whistling: