kksnowbear

This has already been explained to you, and as I said previously, you're not listening, you're just arguing. There's no point in trying to explain it more to someone who just can't (or doesn't want to) understand it. Among other things there is no proof that those people you refer to didn't have stutters. "Working well" doesn't automatically mean "stutter is completely eliminated". As has already been explained, whether any individual actually reports having stutter varies based on factors you're just not taking into account. And that's just one example of the flaws in your argument...I'm not going to get into a piece-by-piece analysis, because it's obvious you're not interested in considering other perspectives. You're not asking these questions so they can be answered, you're asking so you can try to attack the responses. As I said earlier, it's easy to see through, and just isn't particularly clever at all.

Not in reality it's not. And certainly not with the setup the OP currently has.

And for the umpteenth time, you are apparently unable to distinguish between helping to improve the OPs situation, and "completely eliminating" stutters. Seriously...what part of this do you not get? Mother of pearl...wow.

All of which has already been suggested (granted, not with the graphs but that's not crucial to the actual point, just illustration). And still, the biggest factor in this equation is the fact that the OPs platform is very poorly matched to his GPU - which can very easily cause the exact sort of thing he's reporting, and which was identified in the second post on this thread, within an hour of the OPs original post. No one is saying he is required to upgrade anything. He can and should try the other suggestions. The mismatched components will, however, remain the biggest factor in the equation unless/until it is changed. It's not unheard of for a mismatched CPU to be associated with excessive stuttering - and he's certainly got that. And, once again, no one at any point in this entire thread has said the OP's situation was "unsolvable". You keep trying to claim someone said that, but that's just not true.

OIC...I thought you were saying you already had DCS on a Gen5 drive. I personally always use the fastest possible drive in a system for the most demanding games, and (generally) the next fastest drive for the OS, leaving 'non-performance' games (PvZ AoE etc lol) on a SATA SSD or even a conventional HDD (though my own machine is all solid state now). Gen5 drives already perform better than Gen4, and even though performance limitations exist in current technologies/methods, it will absolutely be different in the very near future. Already happening, and in fact, growing. The difference in Gen3, 4 and 5 drives will actually be proportional to their speeds. People who insist Gen4 is just as good (or Gen3, as if) are basing their opinion on outdated, flawed technology that doesn't take advantage of faster drives' speeds, thus creating a playing field that isn't even close to level. It favors the slower, outdated methods and technology, which needs to change - and is changing, right now. And I recently saw a Gen5 drive the same exact capacity as a Gen4 drive, for $20 more (see image below). So the argument about cost being double (or whatever) is not valid. Same capacity for $20 more and 66% faster? No brainer. Plus, that's not even the fastest Gen5 drive you can get now, either - so the argument that the drives aren't using the full Gen5 bandwidth? Wrong. My T705 uses more of it's available Gen5 bandwidth than many other top-name brand Gen3 or Gen4 drives do (the Samsung 990 Pro uses slightly more of it's PCIE 4.0 bandwidth, and a 980 Pro actually uses *less* than the T705 does). Bandwidth usage as a percentage of max theoretical by bus/Gen: The *only* drives that use more possible max bandwidth than the T705 are a Samsung 990 Pro and a WD SN850X (which is practically the same as the T705). If someone has a board that supports Gen5 drives, it also inherently means they've paid a considerable amount of money for newer tech (and, presumably, a GPU that's reasonably matched)...doesn't make any sense at all to have invested that kind of money in a top-end system, just to cheap out trying to save $20 by giving up *half* the performance you paid for a motherboard to support. Recent prices:

NO! (Never, if you have the option of multiple drives at all) No! (The OS doesn't require and won't benefit much at all from the extra speed, now or in the near future when storage performance will almost certainly be different). Yes! (Puts the best performance where it's most needed) In that order This. Me, too. Crucial T705 for 'performance games' (like DCS/flight sims). OS/boot volume on a 980 Pro 500G. (Other crap on various other drive types/speeds)

Not in terms of cost it's not. Anybody who's bought a high end GPU in the past several years can tell you that. My 4090 cost several times what the CPU, motherboard and RAM did. And the case. And the PSU... Sorry but it's not a whole computer. It's also not my fault that it's a very dated platform paired with a current-gen (albeit hobbled) GPU. Here we go with the whole lack of comprehension again... I didn't say it wouldn't help. In fact, I can assure the OP there are lots of ways to help. But nothing changes the fact that it's a seriously dated platform... ...and none of it changes the fact that no amount of expensive hardware will completely eliminate the stutters. Just like I said. You don't seem to be able to distinguish that from "You should replace the whole thing, but even that won't help". Most people don't have trouble seeing these are neither the same statements, nor even the same concepts.

Sure you told him to basically buy a whole new computer but that it wouldn’t help since no amount of money would solve the problem. You have serious comprehension problems, I guess...that's not what I said. Please stop contorting what I say.

Not true. Many many people run this game without any problems like that. BTW I'm gonna guess those people you're referring to aren't running a 4060ti* on a 7600k platform with DDR4-2400 memory at 4k, either. You ignore that, too? First thing I said is that this is grossly mismatched...and it is. So much for your accusations I haven't offered any help. Fact is, that's a seriously mismatched setup, and it damn well could be causing a lot of problems. And while I can't promise him that's what is causing his problem, you can't promise me it's not, either. * I'm not sure whether it's been specified...but if this is one of the 8G/128bit 4060Ti cards...well, those are known for their own issues, as well. Once the VRAM is starting to run short, everything has to then be moved over that agonizingly slow 128bit bus. And the higher the resolution, the worse it will get. Some sources have already decreed that 8G VRAM isn't enough for recent games like it was back in the GTX1070 days.

Yeah. He's wrong. I'm wrong...people he and I referred to here on this very site... All wrong, according to you. All are doing something wrong, or have broken hardware... Oh, and to be accurate, I most assuredly did offer the OP some expert advice and it's spot on.

The problems I keep on telling you cannot be solved are the exact ones LucShep described at length. But let's not take my word for it... Read that last part carefully. And to be clear, you haven't solved the problems we're talking about LucShep tried to explain that although you may not think you have the problems he and I are referring to, they are absolutely there. I can explain (and LucShep already has) to anyone who listens...but that's not you. You're arguing, not listening.

Wow, dude you can contort anything, huh? The problems I referred to as having been explained to you - by two different people, nonetheless - are the problems I also said cannot be completely eliminated by any amount of money spent on hardware or settings. This is corroborated elsewhere many times over, and wonderfully expounded upon by LucShep in this very thread. Try to keep up. No one (except you) is concerned with whether you have problems or not. (Incidentally, how does insisting you have no problems help the OP, exactly?) And for the umpteenth time, stop saying I said stuff I didn't. I haven't once said to the OP there's no solution for his trouble. Do I need to paste in my exact quote for you, again? It's not even amusing at this point, and it's certainly not helpful discussion.

I don’t notice anyone here has diagnosed what the OPs trouble really is. Nobody has claimed to have diagnosed anything. I was referring to the stuttering problems with games in general and DCS in particular. Thought that was obvious. You have trouble following? Except that it's not the problem I have assured the OP cannot be completely eliminated by throwing money at expensive hardware. Also not the problem with the issues LucShep discussed at length. But I'm sure someone who relies on a PC vendor to resolve problems with their pre-built machine would know better than either of us would.

Sounds like *your* hardware is problematic. Mine's not, nor any I've sold. But it's clear that everyone except you is just "automatically blaming software" lol

I have a 100% satisfied customer base, backed up with 100% money back satisfaction guarantee*, thanks. (*Though I've never had to "pay a claim", because my customers are happy.) Let's just feature that I'm the guy who your PC vendors call when they don't have a clue (and yes, that was also my career with an international Fortune 500 company). You've had two different people tell you that the problems are what they are. I can't help that you can't acknowledge reality.

Well at least they will all be relieved to know it's them doing something wrong or their system is defective. Thank goodness you're here to pinpoint all these flaws. (And you rely on a "PC vendor" to resolve problems...? Wow...lol smh)

Yeah...because they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. I prefer to tell people the truth, even if it means I don't make as much money. (And I didn't say no amount of money will help. I said no amount of money will completely resolve the stuttering issues...you can read...no?) Incidentally: I presume this would be the same 'vendor' who sold you the 13900K that crapped out earlier this year, due to the ongoing Raptor Lake debacle. And it would appear you've thrown them another big chunk of money, since you're now running a 14900k. But wait, it gets even better: The new 14900k CPU also is now known to have problems, and they didn't mind selling you that. The Raptor Lake problems have been around since late 2022, and became common knowledge during 2023. Certainly any PC vendor worth doing business with would be aware of it. You posted in December 2023 "I am running an i9-13900K without any trouble..." - but, on April 30, you posted "I actually just replaced my 13900K since it crapped out too!". So your vendor - who (if they're worth crap) would clearly have known about the Raptor Lake problems by the time you went to them to replace your failed 13900k...actually sold you another Raptor Lake CPU. I'd even bet they said nothing about these known issues to you at the time (your posts on the subject don't indicate they informed you of the issue, only your own guess it was because of overclocking). And they knew the whole time. Must have, else they're not really not too aware of what's been going on with Intel CPUs since 2022. Now, first of all, if I'd sold someone such a POS that it failed the way these Raptor Lake units have, I'd make it right - that goes without saying. But I damn sure wouldn't then sell them another of the same type of screwed up BS that's *also* exhibited problems. So, yeah lol - they're not going to tell you no amount of money would help. If they did that, they couldn't sell you more stuff that also has defects, much like the first set they sold you. Now *that's* a great place to buy computers...wow.

LMAO Tell that to all the people who have reported stutters in games all over the internet (including DCS) regardless of their machine and how good it is. I'm sure they'll all be thrilled to know that, once again, an expert over at the DCS Forum has it all figured out.

Once again I said no such thing. I posted a direct quote of what I said and you're contorting it. It's really not so clever that it isn't obvious. You've stated your opinion. I've stated mine. Plenty of evidence all over online and here in this forum about stuttering. But I'm sure everyone else is not smart as you because they still have stutters. But not you...no, you've completely solved it. We should all be grateful.

Not what I said, but thanks for contorting my words. Here's what I said: Problem is poorly written software (of any type) can still run like crap on the best machine. I *know* how to build good machines, but I also understand that crappy software can bring the whole thing to it's knees. As for the people who can attest to this fact, look around. There are more than a few right here on this forum. LucShep has mentioned several times, including in this very thread, that he runs an older version of DCS because it doesn't perform as well as it did in earlier versions. Like I said, you stated your opinion, I stated mine. Leave it at that.

The monitor is configured as Gsync Compatible, which is appropriate to a FreeSync monitor. Not an opinion. My machine doesn’t stutter. I’ve never had that problem in DCS or any game. Must be something you’re doing wrong or don’t understand. Telling everyone that is baloney There are ton of people who would say that you're wrong...again, your opinion. Leave it at that. You're also not (by far) the first to claim "My machine doesn’t stutter" and I understand what I'm doing better than you will ever hope to. You've already proven to me you don't even understand the difference in refresh rate and frame rate...so it's pretty clear to me.

I also noticed the OP isn't using DLSS and intended to say he should be, as LucShep indicated. Otherwise there's a ton of GPU horsepower that could be used and currently isn't. This is particularly true running at 4k. The CPU is choking the GPU to death, and it might help a lot to at least give that nice GPU something to do with himself.

And that's your opinion. I stated mine, you've stated yours. Stuttering is (probably) the single biggest complaint about most any game, even among people with high end hardware. And that includes DCS. Having a system with grossly mismatched CPU and GPU will absolutely cause problems that settings aren't going to fix.

Oh dear... To be as concise as possible, not terse, your GPU *grossly* outclasses your CPU. That motherboard, if I'm looking at it right, only supports memory up to DDR4-2400. In a nutshell, you need to upgrade your motherboard, CPU, and probably the RAM as well. IMHO of course. And to be brutally clear, no combination of hardware or settings, and no amount of money spent thereon, is going to completely eliminate stutters, at least not for the time being. Again, IMHO. HTH.

Yes. Same link I posted earlier, but because it's an earlier BIOS version, you have to scroll down the list to see the change that incorporated 128G support.