isoul Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 Bucic, since you report tha ALchemy improves FPS I ll give it a try. If it doesn't on my system I 'll probably disable it since the lack of 3D sound isn't of much difference (I got 2.1 speakers and stereo headphones) in BS.
Bucic Posted January 5, 2010 Author Posted January 5, 2010 Bucic, since you report tha ALchemy improves FPS I ll give it a try. If it doesn't on my system I 'll probably disable it since the lack of 3D sound isn't of much difference (I got 2.1 speakers and stereo headphones) in BS. AFAIK ALchemy does not improve FPS. Creative X-fi sound cards with on-board 64 MB RAM do. Or might. These dirt-cheap ones are more than enough to hear the differrence F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
isoul Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 AFAIK ALchemy does not improve FPS. Creative X-fi sound cards with on-board 64 MB RAM do. Or might. These dirt-cheap ones are more than enough to hear the differrence I got your point! The truth is that once enabled the sound has more bass as Bucic reported(didn't see any other difference since I just run the game for a couple of minutes). I didn't see any difference in FPS (some ppl says ALchemy lowers FPS some others say thatit doesn't and that in specific games the FPS may increase depending on rest of the hardware). So I ll leave it enabled, a bit of bass more never heart anyone... other than my neighbors!
Squid Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 These dirt-cheap ones are more than enough to hear the differrence i have those exact cheapo headphones and they rock indeed . i7 880 | HD 7870 | 8 Gb DDR3 1600 | ECS P55H-A | OCZ Vertex 2 180 | Intel 330 180 | WD 500 AAKS | 2x WD 2T Green | Enermax Liberty 620 | CH Combatstick & Throttle | TrackIR 3 | HP ZR24W | Windows 7 x64
Squid Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 - So, finally, what is the sound of BS ? OpenAL ? . i7 880 | HD 7870 | 8 Gb DDR3 1600 | ECS P55H-A | OCZ Vertex 2 180 | Intel 330 180 | WD 500 AAKS | 2x WD 2T Green | Enermax Liberty 620 | CH Combatstick & Throttle | TrackIR 3 | HP ZR24W | Windows 7 x64
Prophet Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 ALchemy 1.41 is out today. http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=11202 1
Bucic Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 - So, finally, what is the sound of BS ? OpenAL ? It looks like it's DirectSound3D. If it was OpenAL, it wouldn't need ALchemy for anything. ALchemy translates DirectSound to OpenAL. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Squid Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 i thought i read that it works without alchemy too in vista / 7 *scratches head* . i7 880 | HD 7870 | 8 Gb DDR3 1600 | ECS P55H-A | OCZ Vertex 2 180 | Intel 330 180 | WD 500 AAKS | 2x WD 2T Green | Enermax Liberty 620 | CH Combatstick & Throttle | TrackIR 3 | HP ZR24W | Windows 7 x64
Bucic Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 What works without ALchemy in V/W7? F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
71st_Mastiff Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 my sound seems to work better less stuters from lock FC also..:thumbup: File Name : ALMY_PCVTAPP_LB_1_41_00.exe This download is an application for use with Creative audio products. It restores 3D audio and EAX® effects for certain DirectSound®3D games in Microsoft® Windows® 7 and Windows Vista®. For more details, read the rest of this web release note. This download supports the following audio products only: Creative Sound Blaster® World of Warcraft® Headset Series Creative Sound Blaster Wireless for iTunes® Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi™ Titanium Fatal1ty® Champion Series Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Series Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Karaoke Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Notebook Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Notebook Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Play! Creative Sound Blaster Arena Surround Creative Sound Blaster Audigy® 4 Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Video Editor Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS SE Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum EX Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Creative USB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Value Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum EX Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Creative Sound Blaster Audigy LS Creative HS-1200 Headset Creative USB Gaming Headset Creative USB Speaker Fixes: Enables the DirectSound3D game audio to be processed by your Sound Blaster audio device to deliver EAX effects, 3D audio spatialization, sample rate conversion and hardware audio mixing. Without this, most DirectSound3D games will be reduced to stereo output without any EAX effects. Improves 3D audio processing for host-based Sound Blaster audio devices. Requirements: Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 7 32-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit with Service Pack 2 (SP2) or Windows Vista 32-bit with SP2 Creative audio product listed above Notes: Do not install this application if you do not play DirectSound3D games in Windows 7 or Windows Vista. To find out more about Creative ALchemy or view the list of DirectSound3D games supported, click here. To install the application Download the ALMY_PCVTAPP_LB_1_41_00.exe file onto your local hard disk. Close all other Windows applications. Double-click the downloaded file. Follow the instructions on the screen. "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
slug88 Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Alchemy badly screws up the sound in DCS for me. Basically, it seems like it completely removes the dynamic range of most sound effects, so that things far away sound exactly as loud as things very close. For example, I can hear the impact of every single cannon round as if it were right next to me, even if the shells are landing 1km away. Also, the engine whistling of helicopters is exactly as loud from 1km away as it is from 5m away. If I move my view past about 1km, then the noise cuts off abruptly. However, it does fix the loud noise bug that you normally have to toggle outside views or open/close the cockpit door to fix. I am running Windows 7, with an X-Fi XtremeGamer with the latest Creative drivers. The result has been the same with the just released version of Alchemy, and the previous version. I have ensured that SVM if off in my Creative control panel. In fact, I have tried turning every single setting in the Creative control panel on and off, to no effect. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Bucic Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Alchemy badly screws up the sound in DCS for me. Basically, it seems like it completely removes the dynamic range of most sound effects, so that things far away sound exactly as loud as things very close. For example, I can hear the impact of every single cannon round as if it were right next to me, even if the shells are landing 1km away. Also, the engine whistling of helicopters is exactly as loud from 1km away as it is from 5m away. If I move my view past about 1km, then the noise cuts off abruptly. However, it does fix the loud noise bug that you normally have to toggle outside views or open/close the cockpit door to fix. I am running Windows 7, with an X-Fi XtremeGamer with the latest Creative drivers. The result has been the same with the just released version of Alchemy, and the previous version. I have ensured that SVM if off in my Creative control panel. In fact, I have tried turning every single setting in the Creative control panel on and off, to no effect. I could test DCS BS + ALchemy for a very short period of time and it looks that you are talking about the same thing as I did in the beginning when I was referring to glitches, cracks... So the bug report would look like this: Using Creative ALchemy removes range effects of many sound effects (e.g. projectiles hitting ground) and so they are as audible from 1 km away as they are from a couple of meters, including in-cockpit. Soundcards: Creative Audigy and X-Fi series Systems: Vista, Win 7, both 32 and 64 bit If anyone is experiencing the same erratic sound system behavior on windows XP, then it means that the bug referres not only to ALchemy but to EAX in general. Related bugs: Without ALchemy - in-cockpit constant engine noise ; can be fixed by opening cockpit doors. More here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=48158 Edited January 9, 2010 by Bucic 1 F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
slug88 Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Ah, perfect, thanks for drafting the bug report :). BTW I should clarify I'm using W7 x64. I wouldn't be surprised if this is related to Creative's 64-bit drivers. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Bucic Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 Ah, perfect, thanks for drafting the bug report :). BTW I should clarify I'm using W7 x64. I wouldn't be surprised if this is related to Creative's 64-bit drivers. It's not. My test and Audacity recording has been made on Vista 32 bit. I, and I bet ED staff too, would be grateful If you all comment anything related to problems with ALchemy+DCS BS in the Problems and bugs forum http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=48158 F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Squid Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 What works without ALchemy in V/W7? BlackShark ? . i7 880 | HD 7870 | 8 Gb DDR3 1600 | ECS P55H-A | OCZ Vertex 2 180 | Intel 330 180 | WD 500 AAKS | 2x WD 2T Green | Enermax Liberty 620 | CH Combatstick & Throttle | TrackIR 3 | HP ZR24W | Windows 7 x64
Bucic Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 BlackShark ? Ah, ok. Sure it works but only Stereo sound is present. No EAX at all. I mean 10 years ago EAX was a bonus, but today... F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Bucic Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 A solution - ASUS Xonar soundcards thread http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=49017 F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
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