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  1. 1. ACES II replica parts

    • Ejection Handels
    • fire control saftey lever
    • Inertia controll assembly
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    • restraint emergency release handel
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    • Seat pan


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Posted

I checked "ejection handles" in the poll but I would also be interested in a seat pan and a fire control safety lever.

Posted

Ok it seam i set up the poll poorly i should have set it up so one person could make multiple choices if that is possible. So far there has been limited interest in any of the items and with only 5 guys interested in the seat pan it may be to expensive still for a production run

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

Posted

OK guys estimated prices on the seat pan is apox $325.00 each

estimated price on the resin ejection handles aprox $200 for the set

These are estimates price I have not molded either of the items yet for the limited number of possible sale.

Please PM me if any of you are serious on these items

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

Posted

Hi DM

 

looks like it's too late to show interest now. However, I have to say that the prices are quite a bit above what I had expected. I guess the seatpan takes a good amount of resin, but I would have thought the ejection handles could be done for about $50 per piece. So what drives the price up that much? The small number, mold size/complexity, labor involved?

 

Cheers,

Stefan

Posted (edited)

The ejection handles are mirror s of each other so there would need to be two molds and not just one, so for those we have double the time material. the seat pan is an extremely labor intensive project price is actually lower than current f-16 seat pan reproduction. Then you have the fact of lower numbers of orders .

I am not sure where people are getting the idea all of these thing can be made for little to nothing.Can I ask what experience you have to estimate the price at $100.00? for a set of ejection handles? Have you even seen a set?

Edited by Deadman

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

Posted (edited)

That $50 estimate was based on 15 years of experience I have with the movie prop guys from the Replica Props Forum. There was for example a limited run (10 pieces) for the Dropship from Aliens which was about $700. The main fuselage of the Dropship was about 60cm long and the kit had quite a lot of parts (wings, weapon pods, thruster, ...) which each had to be build before they could be cast for the kit.

Items of similar mass and complexity as the ejection seat handles usually go for about the price I stated.

For $200 on the other hand you get a complete multipart kit (there's a current run) of the Lawgiver MKII handgun from Judge Dredd with ejectable magazine, dummy rounds, printed stickers and shipping (within the US) included.

 

So apart from how rare those parts are, I think my estimate of what can be done isn't too far off.

Edited by Dropship Pilot
Posted

I had a quick look on the prop forums and while I didnt find the gun you were referring to it was clear that this is a forum for enthusiasts that like to build their own stuff.

 

That means first and foremost they are building things for themselves. Remember that Deadman has all the real stuff, he is not investing the time in moulds etc for himself, it's only for other people.

 

I dare say that if some of the guys on the props forum were not making them for themselves they may also want to recoup some of the hours they spend making the moulds.

 

Also you are using up someones valuable time and Deadman has put a value on his time. I dont know the breakdown but I can appreciate it. There are a lot of things I just wouldnt do for a minimum amount of money, its not like hes going to a theme park while building stuff for other people. I am sure he more exciting things to be doing.

Posted (edited)

Drop ship with the cost of the original part material ,and my equipment expecting only few order. Pricing is all so less than other quality makers of equivalent F-16 parts IE ejection handle and seat pan.Witch I may point out there are more builder of the F-16 than the A-10 cockpit more units sold less cost per unit. I can not afford to build items unless it pays to do so. I am not wealthy enough to just give things or time away. If you feel that you can build quality replicas at a better price please do but don't ask me for pictures of measurements for free to enable you to build some thing.

Edited by Deadman

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

Posted

@metalnwood

 

I had a quick look on the prop forums and while I didnt find the gun you were referring to it was clear that this is a forum for enthusiasts that like to build their own stuff.

That means first and foremost they are building things for themselves.

 

Yep and I think the same applies for the home cockpit part of this forum.

 

I dare say that if some of the guys on the props forum were not making them for themselves they may also want to recoup some of the hours they spend making the moulds.

 

If Shawn just wanted to have one of the Lawgivers for himself, he wouldn't have bothered with making a mold in the first place. Also, I know he's making money with his kits though I have to admit that I don't know his $/hour work time ratio.

 

Remember that Deadman has all the real stuff, he is not investing the time in moulds etc for himself, it's only for other people.

 

This is greatly appreciated. Also you have a point here: When Shawn is working on the Lawgiver he's motivated to do one for himself and with a little extra effort (compared to the overall work) he can offer it to the other forum members. Deadman on the other hand has the original part and thus no need to work on it at all.

I had not considered this and I think it's a good and valid argument.

 

Also you are using up someones valuable time and Deadman has put a value on his time. I dont know the breakdown but I can appreciate it. There are a lot of things I just wouldnt do for a minimum amount of money, its not like hes going to a theme park while building stuff for other people. I am sure he more exciting things to be doing.

 

I can perfectly agree with that and I have no problem when Deadman says that's the price he can offer a certain item for.

My price expectations (and I guess those of others as well) however were lower. I asked for the reasons because more than once I had to correct my expectations based on good arguments. I may not have considered everything, but I think my last post shows that my expectations weren't completely unreasonable either.

 

 

 

@Deadman

 

Drop ship with the cost of the original part material ,and my equipment expecting only few order. Pricing is all so less than other quality makers of equivalent F-16 parts IE ejection handle and seat pan.Witch I may point out there are more builder of the F-16 than the A-10 cockpit more units sold less cost per unit. I can not afford to build items unless it pays to do so.

 

I'm perfectly with you here.

 

I am not wealthy enough to just give things or time away. If you feel that you can build quality replicas at a better price please do but don't ask me for pictures of measurements for free to enable you to build some thing.

 

I guess noone here is rich enough to just give away things nor is it expected. However, (at least in my understanding) the main purpose of a forum is to offer time and knowlege to others and learn from them in return.

(Don't get me wrong here - you've certainly posted more good info already than most of us will ever come up with!)

Posted

yes i have given out information and lately is has been used by other to make items for profit. When i posted a picture for some one else. as far as your point about what the form should be about you might want to preach that to some one new that absolutely refuses to give any advice or information.

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

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