Deadman Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 Is any one interested in ACES II wheels or quick disconnects replica cast from hard resin? https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Hansolo Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 I am interested... what's your price? Cheers Hans 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album
Deadman Posted April 17, 2013 Author Posted April 17, 2013 Wheels look like they would be $10.00 each the disconnects about the same I am looking for some cheep snap rings for them now. I can give an firm price once i order some https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted April 17, 2013 Author Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) found some that fit they are black instead of the real gold color one one the real part but they will work So $10 each for either the wheels or the quick disconnect plus shipping and PP fees Edited April 17, 2013 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Hansolo Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 Sounds great. PM indbound Cheers Hans 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album
Dropship Pilot Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 I'm in for a set of quick disconnects. -DSP
Deadman Posted April 17, 2013 Author Posted April 17, 2013 Dropship Pilot Pm me with your shipping address for a price quote on shipping . I added a poll to see if your interested in any other parts https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
MacFevre Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 Deadman, hope that poll wasn't just for dropship as I weighed in on it. I'm not quite to creating my seat yet, but if I saw parts that I wouldn't mind getting, I'd snap them up. Buttons aren't toys! :smilewink: My new Version 2 Pit: MacFevre A-10C SimPit V2 My first pit thread: A-10C Simulator Pit "The TARDIS." Dzus Fastener tutorial, on the inexpensive side: DIY Dzus Fastener
Deadman Posted April 17, 2013 Author Posted April 17, 2013 The poll is for every one to participate in. It will give me a better idea of what you guys are looking for and as all way it is cheaper easier and faster for me to make multiples of one item. Instead of jumping from one item to another https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Waxi Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 I checked "ejection handles" in the poll but I would also be interested in a seat pan and a fire control safety lever.
Deadman Posted April 19, 2013 Author Posted April 19, 2013 Ok it seam i set up the poll poorly i should have set it up so one person could make multiple choices if that is possible. So far there has been limited interest in any of the items and with only 5 guys interested in the seat pan it may be to expensive still for a production run https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Dropship Pilot Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 I'm not sure if all pitbuilders are checking the for sale section on a regular basis. If you give them a hint in your build thread, there might be more interest. Cheers, Stefan
Deadman Posted April 21, 2013 Author Posted April 21, 2013 Posting in my build thread does not seam to have changed any thing hear much. There is very limited intrest in both the quick disconnects and the wheels . I will need to check the numbers and get back to you guys https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Hansolo Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Crossing my fingers :music_whistling: 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album
Deadman Posted April 26, 2013 Author Posted April 26, 2013 OK guys estimated prices on the seat pan is apox $325.00 each estimated price on the resin ejection handles aprox $200 for the set These are estimates price I have not molded either of the items yet for the limited number of possible sale. Please PM me if any of you are serious on these items https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted April 27, 2013 Author Posted April 27, 2013 The run is cancled https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Dropship Pilot Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Hi DM looks like it's too late to show interest now. However, I have to say that the prices are quite a bit above what I had expected. I guess the seatpan takes a good amount of resin, but I would have thought the ejection handles could be done for about $50 per piece. So what drives the price up that much? The small number, mold size/complexity, labor involved? Cheers, Stefan
Deadman Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) The ejection handles are mirror s of each other so there would need to be two molds and not just one, so for those we have double the time material. the seat pan is an extremely labor intensive project price is actually lower than current f-16 seat pan reproduction. Then you have the fact of lower numbers of orders . I am not sure where people are getting the idea all of these thing can be made for little to nothing.Can I ask what experience you have to estimate the price at $100.00? for a set of ejection handles? Have you even seen a set? Edited April 28, 2013 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Dropship Pilot Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) That $50 estimate was based on 15 years of experience I have with the movie prop guys from the Replica Props Forum. There was for example a limited run (10 pieces) for the Dropship from Aliens which was about $700. The main fuselage of the Dropship was about 60cm long and the kit had quite a lot of parts (wings, weapon pods, thruster, ...) which each had to be build before they could be cast for the kit. Items of similar mass and complexity as the ejection seat handles usually go for about the price I stated. For $200 on the other hand you get a complete multipart kit (there's a current run) of the Lawgiver MKII handgun from Judge Dredd with ejectable magazine, dummy rounds, printed stickers and shipping (within the US) included. So apart from how rare those parts are, I think my estimate of what can be done isn't too far off. Edited April 28, 2013 by Dropship Pilot
metalnwood Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 I had a quick look on the prop forums and while I didnt find the gun you were referring to it was clear that this is a forum for enthusiasts that like to build their own stuff. That means first and foremost they are building things for themselves. Remember that Deadman has all the real stuff, he is not investing the time in moulds etc for himself, it's only for other people. I dare say that if some of the guys on the props forum were not making them for themselves they may also want to recoup some of the hours they spend making the moulds. Also you are using up someones valuable time and Deadman has put a value on his time. I dont know the breakdown but I can appreciate it. There are a lot of things I just wouldnt do for a minimum amount of money, its not like hes going to a theme park while building stuff for other people. I am sure he more exciting things to be doing.
Deadman Posted April 29, 2013 Author Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) Drop ship with the cost of the original part material ,and my equipment expecting only few order. Pricing is all so less than other quality makers of equivalent F-16 parts IE ejection handle and seat pan.Witch I may point out there are more builder of the F-16 than the A-10 cockpit more units sold less cost per unit. I can not afford to build items unless it pays to do so. I am not wealthy enough to just give things or time away. If you feel that you can build quality replicas at a better price please do but don't ask me for pictures of measurements for free to enable you to build some thing. Edited April 29, 2013 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Dropship Pilot Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 @metalnwood I had a quick look on the prop forums and while I didnt find the gun you were referring to it was clear that this is a forum for enthusiasts that like to build their own stuff. That means first and foremost they are building things for themselves. Yep and I think the same applies for the home cockpit part of this forum. I dare say that if some of the guys on the props forum were not making them for themselves they may also want to recoup some of the hours they spend making the moulds. If Shawn just wanted to have one of the Lawgivers for himself, he wouldn't have bothered with making a mold in the first place. Also, I know he's making money with his kits though I have to admit that I don't know his $/hour work time ratio. Remember that Deadman has all the real stuff, he is not investing the time in moulds etc for himself, it's only for other people. This is greatly appreciated. Also you have a point here: When Shawn is working on the Lawgiver he's motivated to do one for himself and with a little extra effort (compared to the overall work) he can offer it to the other forum members. Deadman on the other hand has the original part and thus no need to work on it at all. I had not considered this and I think it's a good and valid argument. Also you are using up someones valuable time and Deadman has put a value on his time. I dont know the breakdown but I can appreciate it. There are a lot of things I just wouldnt do for a minimum amount of money, its not like hes going to a theme park while building stuff for other people. I am sure he more exciting things to be doing. I can perfectly agree with that and I have no problem when Deadman says that's the price he can offer a certain item for. My price expectations (and I guess those of others as well) however were lower. I asked for the reasons because more than once I had to correct my expectations based on good arguments. I may not have considered everything, but I think my last post shows that my expectations weren't completely unreasonable either. @Deadman Drop ship with the cost of the original part material ,and my equipment expecting only few order. Pricing is all so less than other quality makers of equivalent F-16 parts IE ejection handle and seat pan.Witch I may point out there are more builder of the F-16 than the A-10 cockpit more units sold less cost per unit. I can not afford to build items unless it pays to do so. I'm perfectly with you here. I am not wealthy enough to just give things or time away. If you feel that you can build quality replicas at a better price please do but don't ask me for pictures of measurements for free to enable you to build some thing. I guess noone here is rich enough to just give away things nor is it expected. However, (at least in my understanding) the main purpose of a forum is to offer time and knowlege to others and learn from them in return. (Don't get me wrong here - you've certainly posted more good info already than most of us will ever come up with!)
Deadman Posted April 29, 2013 Author Posted April 29, 2013 yes i have given out information and lately is has been used by other to make items for profit. When i posted a picture for some one else. as far as your point about what the form should be about you might want to preach that to some one new that absolutely refuses to give any advice or information. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
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