Kappa Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Hello, I was wondering if the tracking speed of Bore, 20x30 and Vertical scan are modeled correctly. I mean, it takes al loooooooot of time to lock a target and sometimes it so slow that I just give up and fire without a lock leavig all the hard work to the missle seeker... Is really that slow IRL or it is WIP? Edited November 29, 2019 by Kappa -- [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 36° Stormo Virtuale - Italian Virtual Flight Community www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted November 28, 2019 ED Team Share Posted November 28, 2019 Hi Kappa, It is covering a rather large area. For snag a lock faster, try bore or vert. Thanks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfas Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Beware the know bug of ACM radar not centered, if you change radar elevator before switch to ACM. So you can’t lock target because radar is pointing out of place. You can check by look at radar caret (moving “T” symbol) if it centered or not. Workaroud for now is, return radar elevator to center before switch to ACM. Edited November 28, 2019 by Alfas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappa Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Hi Kappa, It is covering a rather large area. For snag a lock faster, try bore or vert. Thanks Hi Wags, thanks for your reply, it is very nice to see you ED guys taking care of us on the forum, very nice. Maybe I wasn't clear enought in my previous message, unfortunately my english is rough and rusty. I am talking about all ACM modes, so bore and vertical are very slow too. It may be releted to the bug mentioned by Alfas (Thank you Alfas), I wans't aware of it. I will try to pay attention to my radar elevation and if I find out something more I'll let you know. Thanks Edited November 28, 2019 by Kappa -- [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 36° Stormo Virtuale - Italian Virtual Flight Community www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Within ten miles ACM mode should lock up Mother Theresa instantly. That NEVER happens. Later when I get on my computer I’ll post SS after SS with a bandit right in front of me, in bore sight, 20x30 or 10x60 with the gun cross below the bandit and no lock. Anytime you switch to ACM mode (dog fight) except for 10x60 the radar should go to center. That’s what the DF master mode is for. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Radar beam is 4.6x3.3 degree oval and the antenna moves at something like 90 deg/sec. 10x60 is probably 4-5 bars of 60-65 degrees each which would take about 2.5-3.5 seconds each frame. I think I've heard that real F-16 pilots that typical ACM acquire is a little more than a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 That sounds right. The issue I have is when in bore, pointing directly at the target, inside 10 miles and unloaded, it simply will not lock. It only locks correctly inside about 2.5 miles. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I agree, the radar takes a very long time to acquire a target within 10 nm in either vertical, horizontal or bore sight mode. By comparison in the F-15 it is almost instant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted November 29, 2019 ED Team Share Posted November 29, 2019 Hi Wags, thanks for your reply, it is very nice to see you ED guys taking care of us on the forum, very nice. Maybe I wasn't clear enought in my previous message, unfortunately my english is rough and rusty. I am talking about all ACM modes, so bore and vertical are very slow too. It may be releted to the bug mentioned by Alfas (Thank you Alfas), I wans't aware of it. I will try to pay attention to my radar elevation and if I find out something more I'll let you know. Thanks Please provide some track files and we'll be happy to take a look. Thanks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamscanner Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 on that note, in HMD bore mode, shouldn't the radar oval trail HMD movement due to radar scan speed limits? ie should the radar oval struggle to keep up with head movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzger Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Same issue, attached is a track from the AIM9X instant action mission. Watch the full track. Sometimes it is fast sometimes very slow or even not locking at all. Very dependent on distance, more than 5 miles it doesn't lock or it takes a while. Aspect also affects it. Not sure if it is correct or not and we are spoiled by FC3.ACM.trk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted November 30, 2019 ED Team Share Posted November 30, 2019 Thanks. We have duplicated this and it will be resolved. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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