Satarosa Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 What is the maximum elevation scan angle of the radar? How many degrees of total angle is the value 4 bars ?? < -..°/+..° =...° ? Do not confuses the mechanical elevation of the radar with the vertical electronic angle of research express in "bar".. Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ramsay Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 How many degrees of total angle is the value 4 bars ?? IIRC 1 bar = ~3° and 4 bars = ~8° L0op8ack has said 4 bar = 10° elevation, but from the context of his answer (fewer bars --> greater angles) - I think he thought the question re:elevation, was in respect of azimuth. If I interpreted this correctly, and bar width is 3 degrees, that would give around 8 degrees of coverage in rws 4 bars? 60 degrees 2 bar 25 degrees 3 bar 10 degrees 4 bar fixed pattern configs i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
AeriaGloria Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) IIRC 1 bar = ~3° and 4 bars = ~8° L0op8ack has said 4 bar = 10° elevation, but from the context of his answer (fewer bars --> greater angles) - I think he thought the question re:elevation, was in respect of azimuth. There was also this fix after someone asked about the small amount of scan elevation and Deka said the bar spacing calculation was off and is fixed for next patch “tweak AA radar INTC bar spacing: RWS: 1.3 degrees, TWS: 1.6 degrees” https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=257403 Edited December 17, 2019 by AeriaGloria Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Satarosa Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 ? IIRC 1 bar = ~3° and 4 bars = ~8° L0op8ack has said 4 bar = 10° elevation, but from the context of his answer (fewer bars --> greater angles) - I think he thought the question re:elevation, was in respect of azimuth. Yes there is a problems with this answer JF-17 (2010) KJL-7 Detection max range (4m2 target in the best conditions): ~ 100km Horizontal maximum search angle: -60°/+60° <120° Vertical maximum search angle: - ? °/+ ? ° <?° Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ramsay Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Yes there is a problems with this answer TL;DR: For info a quick test in open beta shows improved radar elevation with TWS 3 bar = approx 6 to 7°. Detail AA radar INTC bar spacing: RWS: 1.3 degrees, TWS: 1.6 degrees Quick in game check of radar TDC cursor, OB 2.5.5.41256 • TWS 3 bar, 22 NM --> 19-35,000 ft = 16,000 ft Little math • arcsin (16,000 / 22*6,076) = arcsin(16,000 / 133,672) = arcsin (0.120) = 6.875° = ~7° • TWS 3 bar = 3° + (2*1.6°) = 6.2° So TWS 3 bar = approx 6 to 7° i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
foxwxl Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 TWS 3 BAR = 6.2° EL coverage RWS 4 BAR = 6.9° EL coverage Deka Ironwork Tester Team
Satarosa Posted December 21, 2019 Author Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) WTF TWS 3 BAR = 6.2° EL coverage RWS 4 BAR = 6.9° EL coverage Not possible .. A modern radar (2010) cannot have such a small angle aperture.. Edited December 21, 2019 by Satarosa Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Satarosa Posted December 21, 2019 Author Posted December 21, 2019 v1.2 Aircraft (year of service) Radar name Detection max range (RCS of 4m2 target in the best conditions) Horizontal maximum search angle Vertical maximum search angle M-2000C (1984) RDI ~ 85km -60°/+60° <120° +60°/-60° <120° MiG-29A (1983) MiG-29G (1989) N019E "Rubin" ~ 70km -60°/+60° <120° +56°/-36° <92° MiG-29S (1988 ) N019M "Topaz" ~ 80km -65°/+65° <130° +60°/-38° <98° SU-27 (1985) N001 "Myech" ~ 110km -60°/+60° <120° -55°/+55° <110° SU-33 (1990) N001K "Myech" ~ 115km -60°/+60° <120° -55°/+55° <110° F-15C (1980) AN/APG-63 ~ 140km -60°/+60° <120° -30°/+30° <60° MiG-21bis (1972) RP-22 "Sapphire" ~ 30km -30°/+30°<60° -2°/+17° <19° F-5E (1972) AN/APQ-159 ~ 40km -45°/+45° <90° -40°/+45° <85° J-11A (1998 ) N001VE "Panda Project" ~ 120km -60°/+60° <120° -55°/+55° <110° F/A-18C (1987) AN/APG-73 ~135km -70°/+70°<140° -60°/+60°<120° F-14A (1975) F-14B (1987) AN/AWG-9 ~ 210km -65°/+65° <130° -6°/+6°<12° MiG-19P (1958 ) RP-5 "Izumrud" ~10km +30°/-30°<60° +26/-16°<42° F-16C (1986) AN/APG-68 ~105km -60°/+60° <120° -60°/+60° <120° JF-17 (2010) KJL-7 ~100km -60°/+60° <120° -?°/+?° <?° Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ramsay Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Not possible .. A modern radar (2010) cannot have such a small angle aperture.. Perhaps this will help understand his answer. JF-17 RWS • 1, 2 or 4 bar scan patterns • Azimuth +/- 15°, 30° or 60° • bar spacing 1.3° • beam width 3° (estimate/guess) Scan patterns can be adjusted up or down to cover differing altitude bands. The radar’s mechanical elevation limit is +/- 30° JF-17 (2010) KJL-7 ~100km -60°/+60° <120° -?°/+?° <?° JF-17 (2010) KLJ-7 ~100km -60°/+60° <120° -30°/+30° <60° Measured in game and checked in JF-17 sensor .lua the radar elevation limit is +/- 30°. AFAIK there isn't an official source for the KLJ-7 radar's elevation limit. Edited December 23, 2019 by Ramsay Fix typo i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
Satarosa Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 ok Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
foxwxl Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 Not possible .. A modern radar (2010) cannot have such a small angle aperture.. Plz don't mess the bar elevation coverage with the radar gimbal limits. Even the F-18 only has a 3.3°+1.3°×3=7.2° 4bar elevation coverage Deka Ironwork Tester Team
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