Hueyman Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Just want to point out the current Mi-8 is the very first DCS module that don't deliver proper rotorhead ( ailerons, elevator, flaps and rudder equivalents, for those who say it's not important ... ) animations. The Kamov did since the first release, as well as the Huey. They mentioned it on the M-8 product page : " The main rotor assembly is fully animated and correctly translates movement of the cyclic and collective controls to the rotor system, making it possible to visually see rotor disc tilting, conning, and blade pitching " So ok, I see they speak about the rotating disc coning/tilting, but pitch change, swashplate movements and tail rotor pitch change is also part of the rotary wing spirit, so I really hope it's on top on their to do list for next Mi-8 update. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CPL(A)IR ME/SEP/MEP/SET - CPL(H)
TimeKilla Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 +1 that. I need to spend more time in her also the Huey is hard to put down poor Mi8 :music_whistling: :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube.
Flagrum Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 +1 that. I need to spend more time in her also the Huey is hard to put down poor Mi8 :music_whistling: Yeah, hehe. What puts me off a bit atm is the lack of a manual. I can't help it, but I just don't get the cockpit layout in general. Everything is wildly scattered over the whole cockpit, with no apparent organization - so it seems to me atm at least. Devrims great english cockpit mod is a immense help, but still ... This was the same for me when I started with the Ka-50 back then. Having a manual, even if it doesn't really explain the "Greater Whole Picture", still helped a lot when I was going through every system, again and again (and again) 1
press Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Everything is wildly scattered over the whole cockpit, with no apparent organization It's not. It's designed in such a way that you do not need a checklist to start or shut down the helicopter. You will see it when you'll learn the switches and knobs.
Flagrum Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 It's not. It's designed in such a way that you do not need a checklist to start or shut down the helicopter. You will see it when you'll learn the switches and knobs. Of course someone has put some thought into all that, but I am lacking the studying material to get behind all that.
Skulleader Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Everything is wildly scattered over the whole cockpit, with no apparent organization I'm not sure that I've well understand all your explanations and yes the organization inside the cockpit of the KA-50 and Mi-8 is not simple or not logic for us from western but I think that it's one Russian doctrine or Russian thought... Of course it's more easy to understand et learn the organisation for one aircraft from western country but after many hours, days or months everything finish well. In fact we using two cockpits from one other country but DCS is one simulation, a very good simulation, I don't know if one day the MIG-21 Bis will available but I'm sure that it's will be a real nightmare to learn the checklist and everything about this new jet. About the animation of the Mi-8 rotor, yes is it true that it's not the same result of the KA-50 and Huey but the Mi-8 is always in Open Beta and maybe we must wait again many months to have these animations, no ? For finish I really love all these modules for our DCS World, wait for obtain the best of the flight simulation is maybe the price to pay.... PS: Excuse me for my poor English, best regards. Bye, Skull. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic93192_6.gif[/sIGPIC] My Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006748814655 My P-51D's Mod: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=142739 One of my few skins : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1452845/
Izgud Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 They mentioned it on the M-8 product page : " The main rotor assembly is fully animated and correctly translates movement of the cyclic and collective controls to the rotor system, making it possible to visually see rotor disc tilting, conning, and blade pitching " So ok, I see they speak about the rotating disc coning/tilting, but pitch change, swashplate movements and tail rotor pitch change is also part of the rotary wing spirit, so I really hope it's on top on their to do list for next Mi-8 update. I noticed the same... Is this planned?
Paradox Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 I assumed that they don't move on the ground because the hydraulic pressure isn't sufficient to move them when not powered up. But I don't think I ever checked if they then function when the aircraft is powered up. If not then yeah probably we need that.
Buznee Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 I assumed that they don't move on the ground because the hydraulic pressure isn't sufficient to move them when not powered up. But I don't think I ever checked if they then function when the aircraft is powered up. If not then yeah probably we need that. Ding Ding Ding! Correct. With hydraulic systems on big aircraft (most of the time) you can't drive the controls unless you have hydraulic pressure. Most helicopters have gearbox mounted hydraulic pumps, therefore they only get hydraulic pressure when the rotor is turning. Some aircraft have electric and APU driven hydraulic pumps although Russian aircraft tend to use the APU purely as a means to air start the engines, not to use as auxiliary power for electric / hydraulics. I did notice though that when the aircraft is spooled up and you apply pedal inputs you do not see the tail rotor pitch mechanism moving or the tail rotor blades changing blade angle. You do see this in the huey. This is definitely something that has not been implemented yet.
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