Fri13 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 For one of the few times ever, I used track replay function after small joypad test yesterday. I recorded video from the actual flight and then I hit replay track in briefing screen and speed scrolled it to same position but this time from different view (F5, outside and locked to target) and recorded a video from that too. I only shot a single burst with a cannon, destroying a target. But in replay track I don't even shoot close the target and it survives. And instead game stopping where I hit ESC and quitted, the track includes more AI operation where the target destroy me in totally different situation :D Is it really acceptable for me to think that I can't trust the track at all as proof for anything? Does the track replay function give AI the controls after the track recording has stopped so after your "actual" play, AI just keeps going? It is just funny to play video from play and then from first track replay while they are not same, but more like from alternative reality where decision to pull trigger was the begin of the new branch for new alternative reality :D i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
Tone71 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Yes, you can't trust the replay tracks. Sometimes they work, more often than not they become wildly inaccurate, the longer they run. Windows 10 Home, Intel Core i7-9700K @ 4.6GHz, Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming (8GB VRAM) on 34" LG curved monitor @ 3440x1440, 32GB RAM, TrackIR 3 (with Vector Expansion), Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Combat Pedals, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs.
HiJack Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Things happen when you speed up the mission. Let the mission replay in normal speed all the time and it may play correct. Things go wrong from time to time if you are using mods on your client or the server mission uses scripts. It is not allways ED that breaks things ;)
blackbelter Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 It's even worse if you run 1.2.6 trk file in 1.2.7. I tried for a few times. Apparently the reactions of AIs under the same conditions are different in the two DCS versions. I find myself, instead of shootng at the AI, shot at nothing. The AI, on the other hand, performs much more effective maneuvers than in 1.2.6, and easily blows me up from my back.
HiJack Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Tracks from one version don't play correct in the next but this have bean annonced by ED. You can keep several versions of DCS World on your computer if you wish.
Fri13 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Posted March 8, 2014 Okay. It was short track, no speeding done, no scripts etc and played of course right after the flight. So it just isn't trustworthy. But how trustworthy is then those flight visualizer applications what loads the track? Of course they do have the similar flaws as well? i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
HiJack Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 Hm, that's strange. Was the fps low when you flew? If online on a server a lot of things can happen that breaks track. Was this on your computer running singleplayer I would have checked the misson file and maybe savd the file in the new 1.2.7 update 1 and tested a short flight again.
BallsOFire Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) I've found this to be true as well. I believe the track file is only a recording of your control inputs, and actually plays the mission again using your recorded inputs (at least in a single player mission). If a bit is missed, the rest of the mission is inaccurate. This is probably more likely if time acceleration is used. It's kind of like going back in time and altering some part of history, then an alternate reality ensues. ;) Edited March 19, 2014 by BallsOFire I5, GTX1060, TM Warthog A-10C Flightstick, TM TWCS, Odyssey+ WMR
Drunken_Skull Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 We should consolidate the track file error posts I have posted about this issue here; http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2033799#post2033799 Stuka Pilot by Hans Ulrich Rudel War of the Rats by David L. Robbins Ghost Force: The Secret History of the SAS by Ken Connor
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