P-51D Config Problem: 3-way-switch (HOTAS Warthog)

[Zabuzard]

According to this thread:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=123212

 

I have a problem assigning the 3-way switches of the HOTAS Warthog to any function in the configs, being precise the middle stage of those switches.

 

I wanted to ask in this subforum if any of you has the same issue or if the problem is on my side?

 

The thing is with the old config format DCS was smart enough to assign the middle stage of a switch to the corresponding game switch if I assigned the UP and DOWN stage to that switch. No it does'nt and I have ~9 switches 3-way switches left as 2-way switches which is pretty annoying because the P-51D has many 3-way switches...

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

well, 128 is really annoying when its about those two way and three way switches on the warthog throttle...

i got my problem partly solved with this thread and Polaris help...

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89226

[Zabuzard]

Sounds like a bunch of work...

Anyway thanks a lot, sounds like it will work then :D

 

Workaround found:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89226&page=5

Page 5-6, Post of DavidRed & Polaris

[fastfreddie]

I've found using the Thrustmaster software to be very quick and I've had no problems. Once you figure out the differences in pulse, hold, etc you can program and reprogram it pretty quickly.

[Screamadelica]

The workaround in the lua files as recommended is pretty easy to do and definitely works. Helps to use the find function under the edit tab to locate the correct joy button amongst all the lines of text. Worth the effort and you get to add a new skill to your list of computer abilities acquired whilst playing flight sims! :thumbup:

[tintifaxl]

... Worth the effort and you get to add a new skill to your list of computer abilities acquired whilst playing flight sims! :thumbup:

 

Something I could do without :(

[Zabuzard]

It really seems to be pretty easy and straight forward... just pretty annoying to substitute the default.lua after every update again with the special commands to enable correct 2-way and 3-way buttons for TM HOTAS...

 

Here are my working extra custom lines to the default.lua:

 

--Custom

{down = device_commands.Button_7, up = device_commands.Button_7, cockpit_device_id = devices.FRONT_SWITCH_BOX, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0, name = 'Alternate Gun safety switch GUN CAMERA SIGHT', category = 'Front Switch Box'},

{down = device_commands.Button_2, up = device_commands.Button_2, cockpit_device_id = devices.FRONT_SWITCH_BOX, value_down = 0.3, value_up = 0.0, name = 'Alternate Ignition switch BOTH', category = 'Front Switch Box'},

{down = device_commands.Button_11, up = device_commands.Button_11, cockpit_device_id = devices.FRONT_SWITCH_BOX, value_down = 0.1, value_up = 0.0, name = 'Alternate Bomb-rocket selector switch TRAIN', category = 'Front Switch Box'},

{down = device_commands.Button_11, up = device_commands.Button_11, cockpit_device_id = devices.FRONT_SWITCH_BOX, value_down = 0.3, value_up = 0.0, name = 'Alternate Bomb-rocket selector switch ROCKETS', category = 'Front Switch Box'},

 

{down = device_commands.Button_11, up = device_commands.Button_11, cockpit_device_id = devices.ENGINE_SYSTEM, value_down = 0.0, value_up = 0.1, name = 'Alternate Mixture IDLE CUT OFF', category = 'Flight Control'},

{down = device_commands.Button_11, up = device_commands.Button_11, cockpit_device_id = devices.ENGINE_SYSTEM, value_down = 0.2, value_up = 0.1, name = 'Alternate Mixture EMERGENCY FULL RICH', category = 'Flight Control'},

 

{down = device_commands.Button_8, up = device_commands.Button_8, cockpit_device_id = devices.K14_GUNSIGHT, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 1.0, name = 'Alternate Gunsight gyromotor power', category = 'K-14 gunsight'},

{down = device_commands.Button_3, up = device_commands.Button_3, cockpit_device_id = devices.K14_GUNSIGHT, value_down = 0.0, value_up = 0.1, name = 'Alternate Gunsight mode FIXED', category = 'K-14 gunsight'},

{down = device_commands.Button_3, up = device_commands.Button_3, cockpit_device_id = devices.K14_GUNSIGHT, value_down = 0.2, value_up = 0.1, name = 'Alternate Gunsight mode GYRO', category = 'K-14 gunsight'},

 

{down = device_commands.Button_6, up = device_commands.Button_6, cockpit_device_id = devices.ENGINE_CONTROL_PANEL, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 1.0, name = 'Alternate Fuel Booster', category = 'Engine Control Panel'},

 

{down = device_commands.Button_3, up = device_commands.Button_3, cockpit_device_id = devices.FUEL_SYSTEM, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 1.0, name = 'Alternate Fuel shut-off valve', category = 'Fuel Control'},

 

Needed for that profile:

[Captain Orso]

From the graphic in the previous post it's apparent that a number of buttons and switches are using key-modifiers. But it seams that the only modifiers DCS recognizes are a keyboard's standard meta-keys (Alt, Ctrl, etc.).

 

Is my assumption correct?

 

Is there any way to use a Throttle or Joystick button as a modifier, for example the Master Mode Control Button the the stick?

[Blech]

From the graphic in the previous post it's apparent that a number of buttons and switches are using key-modifiers. But it seams that the only modifiers DCS recognizes are a keyboard's standard meta-keys (Alt, Ctrl, etc.).

 

Is my assumption correct?

 

Is there any way to use a Throttle or Joystick button as a modifier, for example the Master Mode Control Button the the stick?

 

 

Hi,

 

 

Pic 1 - in game profile

Should be possible for every joystick/throttle button that is recognized and listed

 

 

Pic 2 - profile in combination with a joystick-software

It`s possible with the X52 - Saitek - Profileditor

Pinkie - standard modifier

Clutch as second modifier

[Captain Orso]

Thanks Blech! :thumbup: I never realized that I could create my own Modifier buttons :doh:. That's exactly what I was looking for.

 

PS I hope you forum name isn't Germany :huh:

[Zabuzard]

For this profile I used the "breaking handle" on the back of the TM Joystick.

[Captain Orso]

You mean the "Pinky Lever"? LOL that's what I decided on too :D

[Captain Orso]

I seem to be working my way from one rats-a-frats to the next :cry:.

 

So I've got my default.lua set up pretty much the way I need it and assigned the switches to the functions I want. In general everything seems to be working great :thumbup:.

 

.... except for when I start a mission with the motor already started and in-sim switches suddenly go off when I click the Fly button .

 

These are the switches on the Throttle-unit involved:

 

EAC OFF (down): K-14 Gyro Motor: OFF

EAC ARM (up): K-14 Gyro Motor: ON

APU OFF (down): Fuel Shut Off: OFF

APU START (up): Fuel Shut Off: ON

ENG OPER L - MOTOR (down): IGNITION OFF / PRIMER OFF

ENG OPER L - NORM (middle): IGNITION BOTH / PRIMER OFF

ENG OPER L - IGN (up*): IGNITION BOTH / PRIMER ON

ENG OPER R - MOTOR (down): FUEL BOOSTER OFF / STARTER OFF

ENG OPER R - NORM (middle): FUEL BOOSTER ON / STARTER OFF

ENG OPER R - IGN (up*): FUEL BOOSTER ON / STARTER ON

* springs back to middle

ENG FUEL FLOW L - OVERRIDE (down): GEN DISC.

ENG FUEL FLOW L - NORM (up): GEN ON

ENG FUEL FLOW R - OVERRIDE (down): BAT DISC.

ENG FUEL FLOW R - NORM (up): BAT ON

FLAPS DN (down): IDLE CUTOFF

FLAPS MVR (middle): RUN

FLAPS UP (up): EMERG F RICH

 

 

So just before I click the "Fly" button, I adjust Prop and Throttle, and turn to ON: GEN, BAT, FUEL BOOSTER, IGNITION BOTH, FUEL SHUT OFF, and Mixture Control to RUN.

 

Then I click "Fly" and in-sim the throttle is full-forward until I move it a little, and GEN, BAT, and FUEL SHUT OFF all go to OFF/DISC. The switches which are in the correct positions are Mixture Control: RUN, IGNITION BOTH and FUEL BOOSTER ON.

 

If I leave all switches in their down positions--everything turned off--and click "Fly" then the throttle is still on full, and Mixture Control changes to IDLE CUTOFF.

 

So the FLAPS switch is recognized in all positions at "Fly", but the throttle is always full forward and the dual-position switched do not have their states recognized.

 

Does anybody else have these issues?

[Zabuzard]

Try to uncheck the "Synchronize with HOTAS" box in the options menu. Maybe this will help.

[Captain Orso]

Thanks Zabuza, that kind of works :). It also means that the option kind of doesn't :huh:.

Edited September 30, 2015 by Captain Orso
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