TOYKILLA Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Here ist the next Gen Control Unit for Oculus Rift and DCS. Please Optimize DCS for this :thumbup: MiG21/A-10C/KA50.. with Oculus Rift and Control VR = Dreams come true :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator
MFG62 Joker Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) IMHO that concept is usesless for a flightsimulator. Even if the System was able to track what you do with your fingers, how should you decide if you have the correct switch on your fingertips? There is a reason, why differnt switches, knobs etc. have different shapes and different surfaces. You can feel it if you are about actuating the correct thing by feel in your hand. With the system described you have no feedback and would never know what knob your turning, what switch you´re ticking. Very nice for playing paper-scissors-rock though :baby: :music_whistling: Edited July 8, 2014 by I./ZG15_FALKE
blksolo Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 IMHO that concept is usesless for a flightsimulator. Even if the System was able to track what you do with your fingers, how should you decide if you have the correct switch on your fingertips? There is a reason, why differnt switches, knobs etc. have different shapes and different surfaces. You can feel it if you are about actuating the correct thing by feel in your hand. With the system described you have no feedback and would never know what knob your turning, what switch you´re ticking. Very nice for playing paper-scissors-rock though :baby: :music_whistling:You are missing the point,other than a holodeck the ultimate flight sim immersion is VR,the next thing you need for flight sim immersion is the ability to flick switches etc. The last is haptic feedback,the ability to feel the switches. With control VR you could use gestures to turn knobs or flick switches.think of a mouse cursor controlled by your fingertip,snap your finger to click a switch,you get the picture. Intel i7 6700k OC 4.7ghz Asus ROG Maximus VIII Hero Motherboard Zotac GTX980ti 6GB Amp Extreme 32 GB DDR4 3200 RAM Oculus Rift CV1 Thrustmaster Warthog
TOYKILLA Posted July 8, 2014 Author Posted July 8, 2014 Yes, for DCS is Contol VR realy perfekt. You only need Oculus Rift, Control VR, Hotas and Rudder Pedals and You will sitting in a Full Equipt Fighter Cockpit. No more Touchscreen or Mouse clicking. A dream come true. Dogfights like a real Fighter Pilot, only without GForce. But Fernando works on DCS SCN5 Motionsimsupport [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator
MFG62 Joker Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) You are missing the point,other than a holodeck the ultimate flight sim immersion is VR,the next thing you need for flight sim immersion is the ability to flick switches etc. The last is haptic feedback,the ability to feel the switches. With control VR you could use gestures to turn knobs or flick switches.think of a mouse cursor controlled by your fingertip,snap your finger to click a switch,you get the picture. Suppose I don´t want to use mouse pointer to operate actuators (because that spoils my immersion). The thing is: I don´t get how am I supposed to know which knob am I turning with which gesture. Mayby you think that every of the 1001 knobs and switches of e.g. a A10C has its own gesture?! If so, might be fun to memorize ... :book: I love my knobs and switches from homebuilt HID´s and my Warthog! There I just do the real thing rather than fiddeling around in the air to tell my simulator 'APU ON'. Edited July 8, 2014 by I./ZG15_FALKE
Abburo Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 I am seconding the lack of tactile feeling which burns the brain down. For sure this VR is nice somehow, and will have good appliances, but not here. I have a kind of saying: when mouse and keyboard will disappear I will quit using PC. This idea can be extrapolated to these devices. When I will have nothing to press, to hold, to switch ... I will just go to bed. I am enjoying my " physical pit" too much to replace it with such virtual ... it's like social life is moving to facebook... virtualy... no thanks! Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
TOYKILLA Posted July 8, 2014 Author Posted July 8, 2014 Sitting in front of a LCD Panel and sitting in a Wood Cockpit is the past, VR Simulation with Control VR is the Future Go 4 Real . [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator
Sceptre Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) It wouldn't work with all the buttons. Maybe in 10 years yeah sure, but not yet :) Edited July 8, 2014 by Sceptre RTX 2070 8GB | 32GB DDR4 2666 RAM | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 4.2Ghz | Asrock X570 | CH Fighterstick/Pro Throttle | TM MFDs | TrackIR 5
doveman Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 I think it could work well with castAR, which can project the controls onto blank surfaces, allowing you to use any plane you want and allowing you to see the switches move when you flick them, whilst leaving the exterior view on a HD/UHD monitor Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
Abburo Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 [...]Control VR is the Future Go 4 Real . You have to decide yourself : VR != Real :thumbup:. It's a joke so don't mind on me. However I dislike that VR future! Simulation is about feeling. I joined DCS because I felt the fly... VR is far and I really don't want it to interfere and change what is now. Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
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