JaseGill Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Hi all, Even with my oldish rig, other than the new MSI GTX970 Gaming OC, this card flies. I haven't had any chance to beat it up but from what I have seen in DCS and Elite: Dangerous I'd be surprised if anyone is disappointed with it. In Elite: Dangerous the FPS at maxed out settings went from 30ish to a flat 100 with no stuttering. DCS I need to really have a go with and run some harder testing. Granted I moved up from another MSI card, the GTX670 OC, I should see a major change but on 2 screens with everything maxed I havent seen a stutter yet. In DCS I guess that's down to the extra memory, my old card only had 2GB whilst this has 4GB, as I think DCS is very graphics memory hungry. I cant wait to see what EDGE is like and given I got it for just under £250 a 2nd one for SLI could be on the cards if anyone shows its worth. As an upside the 670 screamed under load though I never saw it overheat and sucked power like mad, this one is still silent even maxed and is supposed to be more energy efficient so I guess thats all good too. Worth a go I think. J. Rig: Home Built, water cooled,i5 2500K @ 4.3Ghz, ASUS P8P67Pro Mobo, 8GB Patriot Viper 2 Sector 5 RAM, MSI Nvidia GTX970 4GB Gaming OC, 120GB OCZ Vertex 2e SSD Boot, 120GB OCZ Vertex 2e SSD Games (BS & WH), Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB other, Samsung UE37D5000 37" LED TV,EloTouch 1600x1200 secondary, Thrustmaster Warthog No.467, Thrustmaster MFD, Saitek Pro Pedals, Track IR4 with Track Clip Pro. Ex RAF Aircrew, Real Life Pilot, proud Geek and father of one :)
txmtb Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I'm about to find out, my 970 came in this morning. :) Win 10 64 Pro, MSI Z390 I7-9700K @5ghz Kraken Z63, 32Gb Corsair Dominator, MSI RTX-2070, 1TB NVME 2TB SSD's, TM Warthog, Pro Rudders, OpenTrack w/ IR Clip
JaseGill Posted September 30, 2014 Author Posted September 30, 2014 Enjoy :) Rig: Home Built, water cooled,i5 2500K @ 4.3Ghz, ASUS P8P67Pro Mobo, 8GB Patriot Viper 2 Sector 5 RAM, MSI Nvidia GTX970 4GB Gaming OC, 120GB OCZ Vertex 2e SSD Boot, 120GB OCZ Vertex 2e SSD Games (BS & WH), Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB other, Samsung UE37D5000 37" LED TV,EloTouch 1600x1200 secondary, Thrustmaster Warthog No.467, Thrustmaster MFD, Saitek Pro Pedals, Track IR4 with Track Clip Pro. Ex RAF Aircrew, Real Life Pilot, proud Geek and father of one :)
Python Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I'm still torn, I've all but convinced myself I want the Gigabyte version, I'm just trying to decide if the 980 is worth the extra money as the difference in price is pretty large. Maybe a 970 with a view to add a second down the line would be a good idea given that EDGE supports multiple GPUs... I have the 680 also, it has performed admirably so far. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
txmtb Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I'm still torn, I've all but convinced myself I want the Gigabyte version, I'm just trying to decide if the 980 is worth the extra money as the difference in price is pretty large. Maybe a 970 with a view to add a second down the line would be a good idea given that EDGE supports multiple GPUs... I have the 680 also, it has performed admirably so far. Kinda the same thought I had but I went with the highest clocked one, so far, that EVGA released with the new fixed cooler. If I decide to upgrade in 90 days then I can pay the difference and get a 980, shipping excluded. Win 10 64 Pro, MSI Z390 I7-9700K @5ghz Kraken Z63, 32Gb Corsair Dominator, MSI RTX-2070, 1TB NVME 2TB SSD's, TM Warthog, Pro Rudders, OpenTrack w/ IR Clip
mgsanna Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 I have got yesterday the msi gtx 970 gaming, it's rock, dcs go faster and faster, with nvidia surround i've 70 fps steady, with oculus rift all Maxed out and with rift as primary, I have 75fps with normal mission, no stettero no d'oro effect, only down side is when there are cloud The fps go down to 69-70 fps...... It's a flying card
Python Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 I get a steady 90fps with my GTX680, only the occasional sutters during heavy weapon releases and around built up bases etc. I do wonder if a 9 series will improve my performance much, the extra ram might help over my 2gb card I guess. I'd be interested to hear the results from anybody that moves from a 680 to either the 970 or 980.. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Amuro Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 How's Elite Dangerous? Is it worth the $75 for beta access? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-3960X @4.3Ghz | Asus Rampage IV Extreme | Corsair CML16GX3M4A1866C9 4 x 4GB @1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-1T |eVGA GTX Titan Black Hydro Copper SLI | Plextor M5 Pro 512GB SSD | Crucial M4 512GB SSD | Seagate 2TB SSHD | Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB | Pioneer BDR-205BK 12x Blu-ray Burner | Creative x-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Sound Card | Corsair A1200 1200W PSU Cooling - Watercool MO-RA3 420 PRO stainless steel radiator with 9x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilent Pro PK-2 140mm fans
Tricky11 Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 Kinda the same thought I had but I went with the highest clocked one, so far, that EVGA released with the new fixed cooler. If I decide to upgrade in 90 days then I can pay the difference and get a 980, shipping excluded. Well my GTX 980 turned up this morning so when i install it tomorrow i will give you some feedback:thumbup:
VO101_MMaister Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 I also upgraded to a GTX 970 from an 560Ti. So it was pretty much a leap forward. (CPU is a 2600k @ 4,3Ghz). I am very happy with the results, although the AAA online is still an FPS killer. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] KG13 Control Grip Building Control Stick and Rudder Design i7 8700K, Asus Z370-E, 1080 Ti, 32Gb RAM, EVO960 500Gb, Oculus CV1
txmtb Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Anyone check out their 970 with a hardware monitor while running DCS? I noticed the clocks on mine are dropping to under 1000 while DCS is running and not sure if it should be, (first NVidia card I've ever owned I believe). Power level is about ~50% and temps are in the 40's. Is it just because the CPU is limiting it and the card only needs to go so fast? I'm not having any issues with FPS btw, this thing is a rocket IMO. Just want to make sure it's working correctly. In 3DMark for instance, the clock bounces around 1382 - 1454 and 110% power for the entire test. Thanks! Win 10 64 Pro, MSI Z390 I7-9700K @5ghz Kraken Z63, 32Gb Corsair Dominator, MSI RTX-2070, 1TB NVME 2TB SSD's, TM Warthog, Pro Rudders, OpenTrack w/ IR Clip
rcjonessnp175 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Yes that is just simply your gpu not being used due to well it's at its fpS you want it to reach. Also could be a very bad cpu bottleneck, if so maybe overclock and all will be better. But since your getting themfps you want shouldn't worry about it, if anything try maxing out the graphics settings in game and with mods like ssweetfx, the ultra,draw,distance mod and mustangs new shaders mod. That should work your gpu more. Or play the game in 3d like flight sims where meant to then you should have constant 95-99 percent utilization lol 1 I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
txmtb Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Yes that is just simply your gpu not being used due to well it's at its fpS you want it to reach. Also could be a very bad cpu bottleneck, if so maybe overclock and all will be better. But since your getting themfps you want shouldn't worry about it, if anything try maxing out the graphics settings in game and with mods like ssweetfx, the ultra,draw,distance mod and mustangs new shaders mod. That should work your gpu more. Or play the game in 3d like flight sims where meant to then you should have constant 95-99 percent utilization lol Thanks! So it's hitting the highest FPS that the CPU can provide, that makes sense since that 1 core is always over 90%. Yea I noticed it was taxed a little more after I turned everything to high. But still not even hardly heating up the GPU. Which is nice. I think my 4.5 OC on the CPU is about all I'm gonna get out of it. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything Nvidia related to DCS World. Edited October 3, 2014 by txmtb Win 10 64 Pro, MSI Z390 I7-9700K @5ghz Kraken Z63, 32Gb Corsair Dominator, MSI RTX-2070, 1TB NVME 2TB SSD's, TM Warthog, Pro Rudders, OpenTrack w/ IR Clip
Cyb0rg Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Just a heads up for a possible issue with this gpu fans. Edit : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=183618.msg1318906#msg1318906 Edited October 3, 2014 by Cyb0rg [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asteroids ____________________________________________ Update this :D
rcjonessnp175 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Well more than likely its hitting your max fps of 60 if you have vsynch on and a 60hz display? Otherwise yes it will eventually be limited by the cpu. As the game is now you can run max fps until the cpu bottleneck of the big cities come to play lol I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
CoNa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Pcie-2 will bottleneck a 970 with 10-15% compared to a pcie-3 http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/22009-Massive-FPS-gains-in-rf2-using-PCI-e-3-0-x16-with-higher-end-cards%21
txmtb Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Pcie-2 will bottleneck a 970 with 10-15% compared to a pcie-3 http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/22009-Massive-FPS-gains-in-rf2-using-PCI-e-3-0-x16-with-higher-end-cards%21 Motherboard is PCIE-3 so it's not an issue. It's just not ramping up as it doesn't have enough to do it seems. :thumbup: Win 10 64 Pro, MSI Z390 I7-9700K @5ghz Kraken Z63, 32Gb Corsair Dominator, MSI RTX-2070, 1TB NVME 2TB SSD's, TM Warthog, Pro Rudders, OpenTrack w/ IR Clip
Python Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 This seems like a very good deal for UK guys... MSI GTX 980 for only slightly more than a 970! http://www.ebuyer.com/663842-msi-gtx-980-4gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-three-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-gtx-980-4gd5 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
cichlidfan Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 All I saw was that it was out of stock, but I will assume the price was good. I have issues with MSI that prevent me from considering them though, even if that was a USA deal. I have the ASUS Strix 980 on (back)order for about the average going price but I am happy. :) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Python Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 £370! the 970's are £300 here give or take. I wish I'd just ordered it instead of thinking about it now lol. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
cichlidfan Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 That 370 converted to USD is actually slightly more than I am paying for my ASUS 980. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Python Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 That doesn't surprise me tbh, we always get screwed over on price conversions. The Asus Rog Swift for example is about £650 here.. barf! Could order from the USA but then I'd get hit with import fees etc, just doesn't work out. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
cichlidfan Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 That doesn't surprise me tbh, we always get screwed over on price conversions. The Asus Rog Swift for example is about £650 here.. barf! Could order from the USA but then I'd get hit with import fees etc, just doesn't work out. Don't feel too bad, you don't want to know what TFC charged me to ship some hats from the UK. :P ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
GregP Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 As a point of reference, at 4K, switching from an R9 290 to a GTX 970 makes almost no difference whatsoever in FPS. :) But I did it so that I can use a 60Hz 4K TV finally, not for any actual performance improvement.
NatoBoomerang Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 All I saw was that it was out of stock, but I will assume the price was good. I have issues with MSI that prevent me from considering them though, even if that was a USA deal. I have the ASUS Strix 980 on (back)order for about the average going price but I am happy. :) Hey Cichli - I've got the same 780 as you have right now...I'm also looking at the 980 from Asus...question, why not wait for edge to see the performance benchmarks? I'm debating whether to hold off and maybe swing for a Titan black IF my 780 can't make it....it's all up in the air....I really don't know what I would do with my current 780...I've only had in since last July :( Thoughts guys? On holding off till Edge...? "it don't matter, no more..." ==========================================
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