Stanomatic Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I thought I would try the Mi-8 tonight. All I could to was crash trying to take off vertical, all the time. I had to test my skills with the Huey and KA-50 and no problem. I am not sure if I am missing something here. It looks like I have my controls set up correctly with throttle, joystick and rudder. Is this bird extremely sensitive with the controls?
Pizzicato Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I thought I would try the Mi-8 tonight. All I could to was crash trying to take off vertical, all the time. I had to test my skills with the Huey and KA-50 and no problem. I am not sure if I am missing something here. It looks like I have my controls set up correctly with throttle, joystick and rudder. Is this bird extremely sensitive with the controls? Do you have the pitch/roll stabilizer AP turned on? 1 i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S
ebabil Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 if you can take off with huey, you should be able to take off with mi-8 too. it is not more sensitive than the fliying truck. both can kill you anytime lol FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Devrim Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Stanomatic; Generally people crash while landing. Your case is weird. Maybe you should trim your cyclic before take off. Try to find the proper center position of cyclic of Mi-8 for hovering; it's a little back and maybe a little right. Actually; a track would be nice to see what you're doing wrong. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
JMasterFlash Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I feel compelled to add to what Devrim mentioned; that the main rotor turns and tail rotor push the opposite direction than they do in the Huey. You give rear and left cyclic with left pedal in the Huey; it's opposite in the mi-8 cyclic: rear right and right pedal. If you just slowly start adding cyclic and 'feel' what direction the helicopter is moving and compensate rather than 'pre-loading' your controls it may help. You talked about controls being sensitive, the mi-8 is actually much more sluggish in control, so it helps to be more proactive with it. As Pizzicato stated, make sure your stabilizers are turned on and that will help greatly. I would just start out in the air and try flying it that way first. That should show you if anything is wrong with your controls too.
Ralphk Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Click the autopilot Green button on the lower middle console... Flying the huey is way more difficult... what kind of joystick are u using?
FlightControl Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 There are 4 autopilot channels in the mi-8. In the center panel controlled by the fight engineer, you can find 3 greenish buttons. The buttons on the left and right have an off switch beneath. The left is for the heading channel, the middle the pitch and the right the attitude. Don't know where the roll channel is. WHERE IS THAT MANUAL? If I am writing a mistake, tell... So I can learn also. [TABLE][sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]| Join MOOSE community on: DISCORD :thumbup: Website of the MOOSE LUA Framework. MOOSE framework Downloads. Check out Example Missions to try out and learn. MOOSE YouTube Channel for live demonstrations and tutorials. [/TABLE]
ricktoberfest Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 There are 4 autopilot channels in the mi-8. In the center panel controlled by the fight engineer, you can find 3 greenish buttons. The buttons on the left and right have an off switch beneath. The left is for the heading channel, the middle the pitch and the right the attitude. Don't know where the roll channel is. WHERE IS THAT MANUAL? If I am writing a mistake, tell... So I can learn also. The middle button is pitch and roll.
JMasterFlash Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 There are 4 autopilot channels in the mi-8. In the center panel controlled by the fight engineer, you can find 3 greenish buttons. The buttons on the left and right have an off switch beneath. The left is for the heading channel, the middle the pitch and the right the attitude. Don't know where the roll channel is. WHERE IS THAT MANUAL? If I am writing a mistake, tell... So I can learn also. The middle button is pitch and roll. Yes and the right is for Altitude.
JMasterFlash Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 I thought I would try the Mi-8 tonight. All I could to was crash trying to take off vertical, all the time. I had to test my skills with the Huey and KA-50 and no problem. I am not sure if I am missing something here. It looks like I have my controls set up correctly with throttle, joystick and rudder. Is this bird extremely sensitive with the controls? Did you get the issue fixed? Did you try anything different?
Stanomatic Posted November 10, 2014 Author Posted November 10, 2014 Thanks for the replies, I will try all recommendations and reply back. Stan
Tower95 Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 Another possible thing that comes into mind here is liftoff with closed throttle maybe?, before takeoff, take a look at your collective and insure the throttle handle is set to max or at least not min. (you can vary this by default keys pgup and pgdown)
Stanomatic Posted November 11, 2014 Author Posted November 11, 2014 I turned on all three green dots in Auto Pilot (AP) panel. I took off flew around and landed. I think I will play around with them on and off. :) At the moment, with AP off I crash immediately. lol. Thank you again for the help. Stanomatic
Stanomatic Posted November 11, 2014 Author Posted November 11, 2014 I took off with out clicking on the AP lights. I took off very slowly with lots of Trim adjustments. I guess I just need more time with it.
Auger73 Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Are you starting it up yourself? If so, you may want to just start the mission hot to see if that helps. This can help you figure out if you are missing something in the startup procedure, or if you are missing something elsewhere (technique, etc.). I suspect you may need to increase the throttle. I hope you get this worked out - I like the feel of the Hip the best of the 3 helos. Although the Huey did wonders for helping me fly the Shark better! Edited November 11, 2014 by Auger73
Stanomatic Posted November 13, 2014 Author Posted November 13, 2014 Hi Auger73, yes throttle is max when starting. I noticed with no weapons I can take off better than with a full load. I did try starting in the air and it does fly a bit better. I am confused about the training. The one with the "Vertical Takeoff Demonstration". Am I supposed to just watch or participate? I let it go on its own and it never lifted off. The helo drove through the field. I get how on most of the trainings are interactive but nothing was responding while in this training. So, if I was supposed to just watch then not even the training could take off as a demonstration. If I was supposed to interact then why were my Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog not working and key presses? There are so many weird things going on.
Auger73 Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 I am confused about the training. The one with the "Vertical Takeoff Demonstration". Am I supposed to just watch or participate? I let it go on its own and it never lifted off. The helo drove through the field. I get how on most of the trainings are interactive but nothing was responding while in this training. So, if I was supposed to just watch then not even the training could take off as a demonstration. If I was supposed to interact then why were my Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog not working and key presses? There are so many weird things going on. In the training, you can hit 'Esc' to bring up the pause menu, and then click on 'Take Control' to take control of the aircraft in the training mission. This way you can watch how the training mission should be done, and then practice doing the training mission yourself.
Professorbubba Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 I take off with heading autopilot on and cyclic trimmed to just lower right from the center. Once I am above the ground then I start to increase speed and throttle. By that time the heading autopilot may have trimmed the rudder and now fighting with it. So I switch the heading autopilot off just for a sec, trim the rudder back to neutral and switch the heading autopilot on. These tutorials may help: and and flying
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