Extranajero Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 I can't seem to find any information on the quantities of chaff and flares carried by the various FC2 aircraft. Does anyone know ? --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
Extranajero Posted December 22, 2014 Author Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Figured it out for myself by watching the planes in external view and counting button presses. Took ages as I kept losing count :D I only did the Russian aircraft because they are the ones I fly. I'm counting releases here, the flares are released doubly - the chaff I'm not sure about, but going by the numbers I think a release is a single bundle. So for anyone who cares.... MiG-29 - 15 flare 30 chaff Su-25 and Su-25T - 64 flare 128 chaff Su-27 - 48 flare 96 chaff Su-33 - 24 flare 48 chaff Edited December 22, 2014 by Extranajero --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
Ghostraider Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 the programms and defence maneuver are classified [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]www.49th.de
Extranajero Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 I didn't want to know what they are in the real world, I wanted to know what they are in the sim. The amount of chaff and flares a fighter aircraft carries isn't classified data, it's usually available in open literature, like Janes. Or to anyone who can look at the flare dispensing ports on the airframe and is able to count. Again, I wanted to know what is in the sim :doh: --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
GGTharos Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Mig29A should be able to carry only chaff or flare, not both, iirc [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Extranajero Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 I just got the Yefim Gordon book on the MiG-29 but I haven't got to the production models yet, I'm still reading about the prototypes. Amazing that they thought such a limited countermeasures system was OK, but then the early 29's had very short endurance anyway. --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
golfsierra2 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 MiG29 was designed as an short range Air Defense Fighter. Rapidly airborne, engage enemies with GCI support, then RTB. It never was designed for Combat Air Patrols oder as an Escort Fighter. Later variants (SMT, K) were much more capable. kind regards, Raven.... [sigpic]http://www.crc-mindreader.de/CRT/images/Birds2011.gif[/sigpic]
Extranajero Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 US pilots opinions of flying the early export MiG-29 with the German air force are interesting. They say it lacks a good BVR capability and has too short a range but is " unbeatable inside 10 miles combat range with the Archer " I haven't read any comment on the countermeasures though. Maybe they thought they wouldn't need them ? :D It is undoubtedly a great aircraft, I would like one for Christmas if Santa is reading this :D --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
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